The Moonlit Knight
Banned
Agreed, I am actually hoping he gets fined for it. Technically he should have been sent off. The dive was a clear yellow card. The shove was a clear yellow card.
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Gareth Bale
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Agreed, I am actually hoping he gets fined for it. Technically he should have been sent off. The dive was a clear yellow card. The shove was a clear yellow card.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
more than a little harsh but hey while you're dishing out harsh punishments why not go the full monty. bench him for a game or two? or better yet put him on the market to be sold.
too strong maybe?
marcospur2
Ronnie Rosenthal
Your location (in your profile) is absolutely spot-on. So over the top makes me wonder what the motive really is. Anyway I look forward to the next thread on one of our players going down easy. Because no one will be immune.
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I have a completely different take on the incident fromanyone else on this board it appears.
Bale and Kohnson were in a flat-out race for the ball, a race which Bale would surely have won putting a stretched Liverpool defense under pressure.
Agger came across aiming straight for Bale, looking for all the world like he was going to kick Bale up in the air, something which happens regularly in every match and which had already happened a couple of times in that particular match.
This caused Bale to check and swerve slightly and gave Johnson the advantage in the race.
It was a sly, cynical and dishonest piece of defending.
At no time did Agger intend to or attempt to play the ball, his only intention was to impede Bale.
Therefore if there was the slightest contact between any part of Agger's body and any part of Bale's body - and it looked to me like there was - Bale was entitled to go to ground in an attempt to win a legitimate free kick for obstruction.
Bale and Kohnson were in a flat-out race for the ball, a race which Bale would surely have won putting a stretched Liverpool defense under pressure.
Agger came across aiming straight for Bale, looking for all the world like he was going to kick Bale up in the air, something which happens regularly in every match and which had already happened a couple of times in that particular match.
This caused Bale to check and swerve slightly and gave Johnson the advantage in the race.
It was a sly, cynical and dishonest piece of defending.
At no time did Agger intend to or attempt to play the ball, his only intention was to impede Bale.
Therefore if there was the slightest contact between any part of Agger's body and any part of Bale's body - and it looked to me like there was - Bale was entitled to go to ground in an attempt to win a legitimate free kick for obstruction.
I agree with you in a way, that the action could have been to protect himself
However, I feel it was a little too theatrical to simply be an evasive manoeuvre. Maybe that's just me
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indianspur
Guest
Carefully Arcy, most thought the same about Ryan Giggs and Tiger Woods.. look what they turned out to be!
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
you know what, even if the drop was a dive, i'm of the opinion that bale lost an advantage because he evaded the tackle. so he fell to get a foul, kind of like compensation for him having to evade the tackle and lose a yard or space from his opponents.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
So just because some of us think Bale dives occasionally, that means we must have never played the game. What an absolute load of gonad*s! As Arc points out, Bale dives AFTER Agger attempts to foul him. Premier League players may be much faster and more technically gifted than your average sunday league player, but does that mean that there aren't horrendous challenges in sunday morning matches? Just because we don't play premier league standard football that means surely none of us can judge bad premier league players as we have never played at that level too? We can't slate Defoe for missing a one on one with the keeper because "you've never played at that level"? Ridiculous arguement!
Bale is my favourite Spurs player, but he's dived for years.
I guarantee every single poster who is condoning Bale's diving will be on here furiously typing away if we lose at the Emirates in a couple of weeks from the result of an Henry dive which lead to a penalty in the last minute.
Bale is my favourite Spurs player, but he's dived for years.
I guarantee every single poster who is condoning Bale's diving will be on here furiously typing away if we lose at the Emirates in a couple of weeks from the result of an Henry dive which lead to a penalty in the last minute.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
I'm not anti Bale. I'm pro Bale but anti diving.
BedfordBen
Michael Brown
I think the argument of evading injury is a good one, but it's funny that we're only now proposing it because *our* player is diving. Nobody ever saw this side of the coin when it was Ronaldo and Nani!
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indianspur
Guest
has anyone at the club punished him for going against the 'Tottenham way' ?
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
We should fight anyways - much more fun than this Board malarky
Bring Back Ruel Fox
Phil Gray
Flabbergasted by the criticism of bale in here. Only skim read but in turn I am embarrassed for some of our fans.
Living in the 1950's when doing didn't exist is not the answer
It is part and parcel of the game and leaves two thoughts 1) if you don't someone else will and take points that are rightfully ours and 2) if people have such energy for criticism perhaps it would be better directed at filthy cloggers who go around kicking the best players. Skrtel had 3 or 4 'efforts' at Bale and here we are digging out Bale!!! Incredible.
Top lad, top player, hope he recovers from the very clear gash Skrtel put on his shin
Living in the 1950's when doing didn't exist is not the answer
It is part and parcel of the game and leaves two thoughts 1) if you don't someone else will and take points that are rightfully ours and 2) if people have such energy for criticism perhaps it would be better directed at filthy cloggers who go around kicking the best players. Skrtel had 3 or 4 'efforts' at Bale and here we are digging out Bale!!! Incredible.
Top lad, top player, hope he recovers from the very clear gash Skrtel put on his shin
The Moonlit Knight
Banned
Definitely too strong. He cheated. We don't want to see that at Spurs, so you punish the player without harming the team. A fine and a good old fashioned "That's not the way we play the game in this country" should suffice.
The Moonlit Knight
Banned
Exactly. Just because he is one of our own, and especially just because he is one of our best players does not mean his behaviour should automatically be condoned, forgiven or justified. He cheated. End of. We don't want to see that at Spurs. That's the sort of brick that happens down the road. When other team's players do it, we rage about it (justifiably so). I'd rather we weren't hypocritical and condemn opposition players for what we praise our own players for. Condemn them all and maybe we'll stamp it out of the game.
The Moonlit Knight
Banned
Because it's not the Spurs way and the way our fans view this incident could well end up being fundamental to what we will become down the line. Success is already making some of our fans too arrogant. I hate Gooners because of their blinkered views (especially on cheating). I'd hate to have to hate Spurs fans for being hypocrits for condemning Arsenal fans for it whilst doing it themselves. Our club, our supporters are better than that. We never have had, and hopefully never will have, that win at all costs attitude. Winning without grace equates to actually being a loser, no matter how successful you are.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
It's not the Spurs way, agreed. But will yelling 'Boo you hypocrite!' whenever Bale falls over do any good? If anything, it might make him consider leaving, since he may well have his own reasons for falling over easy. His own blighted injury record shows that much. So yes, it isn't the Spurs way, and yes, Bill Nick would have turned in his grave if he had seen it, but what can we do about it that doesn't equate to booing our own player? so let it go, I say. I'm sure someone will have a word with him about it not being the Spurs way; after all, we've got more than enough legends working for the club in some capacity or other. If he continues to do it when he's 27 or 28, then it becomes worrying. But as a young lad, trying his best to cope with a whole host of new challenges? It's expected, and should be accepted. We can't always demand perfection; if we did, no one would play for us.