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Coronavirus

People protest that they are not ideological and then promptly vote for right wing candidates and parties on a consistent basis.
Just a pure deflection play....

Trump sniffs something ugly coming (bad numbers) that reflect on him so he get the groundwork in to deflect the blame onto WHO.

And of course turn it into a brick storm for full affect.
 
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That was my thought.

They need to give a full breakdown really
The ONS has, if you don't mind picking apart the data.

It looks to me (quick fudge with figures) that if you include being over 70 as an underlying condition, it increases to over 96%.
 
The ONS has, if you don't mind picking apart the data.

It looks to me (quick fudge with figures) that if you include being over 70 as an underlying condition, it increases to over 96%.

The more that comes out the more I think this lock down is going to end sooner than later - we are being held hostage by OAPs dying
 
The more that comes out the more I think this lock down is going to end sooner than later - we are being held hostage by OAPs dying

Some countries are starting the first stages already, it would take a lot of balls for the UK to say 'Nah, we are gonna be more cautious and stay in lockdown' for too much longer. In countries 2 weeks ahead of the UK curve some types of shops/businesses have been allowed to open again, schools have been given opening dates in the coming g weeks and parks and open areas opened up again with obvious social distance measures in place
 
Some countries are starting the first stages already, it would take a lot of balls for the UK to say 'Nah, we are gonna be more cautious and stay in lockdown' for too much longer. In countries 2 weeks ahead of the UK curve some types of shops/businesses have been allowed to open again, schools have been given opening dates in the coming g weeks and parks and open areas opened up again with obvious social distance measures in place

I don't think it's unrealistic at all to say we're in isolation for say another 3 weeks until we can be sure that:
  • Cases are flattening out
  • Deaths going down
  • Supply chain and logistics for PPE are fully established (including reserve stocks)
  • Extra ventilators have been delivered
  • Processing of registrations by GMC etc for health workers from other countries willing to help out has been done
  • Food/supply chains are in place
  • Testing is in place (100K per day)
  • Some form of contact tracing/app/other solution in place
and lastly to ensure the NHS are allowed to have a lighter load for a period of time rather than relaxing it instantly, I'm sure they deserve a relax in their shift schedules.

But in summary yeah I agree beyond another 3 weeks if things go as they seem to be and they can work on the above then it makes sense to look at partial relaxation of things - I really hope the gyms open, lockdown doesn't help the waitline.
 
I don't think it's unrealistic at all to say we're in isolation for say another 3 weeks until we can be sure that:
  • Cases are flattening out
  • Deaths going down
  • Supply chain and logistics for PPE are fully established (including reserve stocks)
  • Extra ventilators have been delivered
  • Processing of registrations by GMC etc for health workers from other countries willing to help out has been done
  • Food/supply chains are in place
  • Testing is in place (100K per day)
  • Some form of contact tracing/app/other solution in place
and lastly to ensure the NHS are allowed to have a lighter load for a period of time rather than relaxing it instantly, I'm sure they deserve a relax in their shift schedules.

But in summary yeah I agree beyond another 3 weeks if things go as they seem to be and they can work on the above then it makes sense to look at partial relaxation of things - I really hope the gyms open, lockdown doesn't help the waitline.

Gyms will be the last thing to open I’m afraid :(
 
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