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Honestly I’ve only ever met British born and bred primary school teachers where I live.
Are you still in Beds?

Certainly in London there is are plenty - I know primary teachers from Canada, NZ and Australia and they have dedicated agencies.
All of which have/are leaving as London is pointless in a pandemic.
The opportunities exist for commonwealth workers to work here temporarily - but little incentive to stay long term.
It may be that our plan - essentially have a never ending supply of "supply" teachers and nurses. It would save £ on wage increases, but seems like a very risky strategy for delivery of essential services.
 
Just googling it and it appears that it’s inner cities that have the mix of nationalities
I’d guess that’s a reflection of the demographic of the pupils too
And is part of the point I was making - very few people from developed nations are moving to the UK to live in the suburbs.
They are coming to experience something that a larger city offers. And with that comes higher costs of living. So when you want to live in the suburbs you go back home.
 
Are you still in Beds?

Certainly in London there is are plenty - I know primary teachers from Canada, NZ and Australia and they have dedicated agencies.
All of which have/are leaving as London is pointless in a pandemic.
The opportunities exist for commonwealth workers to work here temporarily - but little incentive to stay long term.
It may be that our plan - essentially have a never ending supply of "supply" teachers and nurses. It would save £ on wage increases, but seems like a very risky strategy for delivery of essential services.
Yeah
I live opposite two primary schools and know most of the teachers at both for varying reasons

when I used to work for Tesco we had an engineering grad form the windies. Some how his work permit got roostered up and he was escorted out by the immigration authorities. He has a permit to study here but never got a work one

I really don’t mind where anyone comes from. It’s why I live Bedford as it’s very very integrated and tolerant. My Devi’s. a giant Nigerian. The osteopath I see is French (and stuck in France). The band I was in was mainly Italian. My road is in a posh part of town and we have 3 Asian families near us and at least 3 italian families. We all get on great and the food is amazing
When I had shoulder surgery the dr was South African and the two nurses were Lithuanian and Czech (that was at Cambridge)
I’ve regularly had to correct my racist right wing friends who I know form going to Tottenham mainly that don’t forget that without all the people you don’t want here we have no health service, no basics amenities and none of their favourite restaurants

but I voted for Brexit. I was working for a client looking after Merrill lynch who told very member of staff of you vote to leave we will make you all redundant. That was enough for me. And I say that as someone who does a LOT of international business, has traveled a lot for business (never really been Southern Hemisphere though) and has friends form all over the world.

the other main reason I had was I’ve worked with a lot of ex colonials and it was getting harder and harder for them to remain here (again their words). Yet I knew some unskilled people from Europe who had no issues. I’m kinda of the belief that we took over those countries. Pillaged some of them and as such IMO should be giving them more back. But again that’s just my opinion
 
And is part of the point I was making - very few people from developed nations are moving to the UK to live in the suburbs.
They are coming to experience something that a larger city offers. And with that comes higher costs of living. So when you want to live in the suburbs you go back home.
Yeah why not
It’s the city bubble life
London is just that. A world of its own
 
Yeah why not
It’s the city bubble life
London is just that. A world of its own

Exactly. So back to your original point, if we want to get and keep ex colony workers from developed nations we need to offer reasons to settle here or accept a constant flow and turnover in key professions.
 
Well the ones I know have come here for the ££ mainly
Then you better hope there is sufficient supply from those places with a lower quality of life across all key sectors.
Although I do suspect we'll see a big increase in salary and benefits for key workers under a labour government as it'll be a political vote winner.

I think we may have hijacked the covid thread a bit! Whoops
 
Then you better hope there is sufficient supply from those places with a lower quality of life across all key sectors.
Although I do suspect we'll see a big increase in salary and benefits for key workers under a labour government as it'll be a political vote winner.

I think we may have hijacked the covid thread a bit! Whoops

I’m not talking key worker roles where I have mainly had experience. Mine are mainly private sector professional roles. Weirdly a lot of SA lawyers. A lot of french buyers and a lot of Spanish guys in logistics.
 
What are the obstacles preventing us just blitzing through the population with the vaccination? Is it physical issues like not enough qualified stuff, places to vaccinate etc or is it bureaucracy issues such as problems keeping track and establishing databases and such?

Edit. Just found this data that shows we had given 944k as of 27th Dec. How is that possible when we were told we only received 400k of that first Pfizer order?
If true then almost 1mill done already a week ago with the AZ one starting today doesnt seem to bad. I just don't understand that figure.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations


With the amount of doctors/nurses/care workers/even vets!!! That can be trained up theres no reason We shouldn’t be hitting 500k a day

we have football stadiums/airports/schools/unis/colleges all empty so we have the space

the only reason we can’t hit a high daily target is the government.
 
With the amount of doctors/nurses/care workers/even vets!!! That can be trained up theres no reason We shouldn’t be hitting 500k a day

we have football stadiums/airports/schools/unis/colleges all empty so we have the space

the only reason we can’t hit a high daily target is the government.
I think it's production levels too?
Astra Zenica say 1-2m production per week.
And that's with no hiccups.
We also won't be the only buyer and most vulnerable should get priority globally.
For anyone under 50 i think it'll be 2022 for the vaccine
 
I think it's production levels too?
Astra Zenica say 1-2m production per week.
And that's with no hiccups.
We also won't be the only buyer and most vulnerable should get priority globally.
For anyone under 50 i think it'll be 2022 for the vaccine

We have more of the other one coming as well I believe.

Oxford are saying they have all the vaccines good to go and don’t see any issues.

Moderna Should get the go ahead soon as well

I think u50s without conditions will be optional
 
We have more of the other one coming as well I believe.

Oxford are saying they have all the vaccines good to go and don’t see any issues.


Moderna Should get the go ahead soon as well

I think u50s without conditions will be optional

Not produced. Astra Zenica says they expect to supply "millions in the first Qtr."
We have 100m doses on order. They haven't all been manufactured.
So best case scenario for that to be fulfilled is a year.
 
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