The real test will be in winter.
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Easier to do when there's 3 or 4 countries' worth of space between anything resembling a city and the next. And some sheep to keep the travellers entertained, obv.
nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
Total cop out.
tommysvr
Vedran Corluka
I don't believe the virus has been eradicated here. It's about 10 days since our lockdown ended, the real test will be the next 14 days. That's where test and trace really comes into it. If they can't trace and then isolate then we will definitely go back into lockdown (but people won't go so easily this time.)
Lots of people want test and trace to be the strategy in the UK but it's simply not possible when you've got 20,000+ cases per day. That's why you have lockdown - to put you in a position to finish the job.
Lots of people want test and trace to be the strategy in the UK but it's simply not possible when you've got 20,000+ cases per day. That's why you have lockdown - to put you in a position to finish the job.
Is probably the best thing to do when you have no answer to the points I've raised.
nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
I've provided answers, you just refuse to acknowledge them.
Instead you moan, moan some more, throw your hands in the air, say it's all too hard in little old England so let's just allow people to die to save the economy.
Correction: Impossible in England.
How can the government ensure quarantine between West Sussex and Hampshire?
If they patrol the A27 (which has a few hundred cars passing every minute across the border) then I can just take one of the hundreds of other roads that are less than 30 minutes out of my way.
nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
Plenty of side-roads in Australia and NZ.. It's about providing clear instruction to the public, empowering them to do the right thing and then patrolling what you can.
It's not impossible, but the inept bunch of clams in power have certainly made it appear that way.
Why would people voluntarily quarantine just because they've driven over an imaginary line?
nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
You'd have to ask the people in countries who have helped lower cases to 0... With your attitude on display it's clear that many selfish clams in England are to blame as much as the government.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Exactly.
Aus and NZ have just successfully navigated a winter.
Europe is going into one. If Europe could effectively lockdown over this winter, in April it would be where Aus/NZ is now.
Then we find out the truth depending on what happens in Europe Vs Aus/NZ
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
That suggests they are confident of a positive result
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
You would think they wouldn't wait if it was bad news
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
We are the most densely packed country in Europe I believe.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
That actually misses the point - they have reduced numbers to zero everywhere; that includes the cities. So your comparison doesn't stand up.
It's a harder task in the UK, but the principles remain the same and need to be driven by solid governance and compliance.
nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
Oh, no, no but winter is colder in little old England, dontcha know? It's not the same.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
You can say that again
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
3rd behind Netherlands and Belgium; however not dissimilar to Germany. That's the UK.
England however is 2nd behind Netherlands.
I really think we should got total and hard lockdown for a short period (20 days?) to aggressively reduce the number and then review.
But for Europe we need a consistent approach.
Australia has the advantage of being the physical size of Europe but with very few people.
They also were aggressive, closing the borders to Kiwi's and there own citizens.
We have a halfway house in the UK.
And a wider problem in Europe.
ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
I am slightly baffled. The Aussies do think they have forward wound to somewhere better when the reality is they have rewound to somewhere better. All the same issues await, it's a reset only.
If game changing therapeutics or a vaccine come along in this period then the long lockdown would have been worth it (from a virus death pov only)
Conversely if you've clamped down hard on infections, logic dictates more of you remain potential hosts if (probably when) the virus takes hold again.