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Coronavirus
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According to this report only 2% of hospitalisations are those that have been vaccinated. https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/o...are-fully-vaccinated-new-figures-show-1039944
Now younger people as we know are much less likely to go to hospital. So the majority in hospital will be those who have refused the vaccine (a small number may not be able to have the vaccine for whatever reason, and they may need to take precautions). So why should the population as a whole have restrictions in order to protect people who refuse to protect themselves?
Now younger people as we know are much less likely to go to hospital. So the majority in hospital will be those who have refused the vaccine (a small number may not be able to have the vaccine for whatever reason, and they may need to take precautions). So why should the population as a whole have restrictions in order to protect people who refuse to protect themselves?
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
6 weeks still before this change goes live
Double jabbed will not have to self-isolate from 16 August
Sajid Javid says the latest figures show the vaccination programme has saved 27,000 lives and prevented 7m people from getting Covid.
Both doses can reduce symptomatic infection by almost 80%, he says.
He says: "The odds have shifted in our favour and we can look afresh at many of the measures we have had to put in place".
From 16 August anyone who is a close contact of a positive case will no longer have to self-isolate if they've been fully vaccinated, he says.
If someone gets their second dose just before or just after 16 August they'll have to wait for two weeks to build up the maximum protection before they can enjoy these new freedoms, he says.
Double jabbed will not have to self-isolate from 16 August
Sajid Javid says the latest figures show the vaccination programme has saved 27,000 lives and prevented 7m people from getting Covid.
Both doses can reduce symptomatic infection by almost 80%, he says.
He says: "The odds have shifted in our favour and we can look afresh at many of the measures we have had to put in place".
From 16 August anyone who is a close contact of a positive case will no longer have to self-isolate if they've been fully vaccinated, he says.
If someone gets their second dose just before or just after 16 August they'll have to wait for two weeks to build up the maximum protection before they can enjoy these new freedoms, he says.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Amen !!!
Diamond Lights
Didier Zokora
Israel reimposed face masks for indoor gatherings and public transport last month despite the vaccine success, as cases were increasing.
Cases may have risen but hospitalisations and deaths have not.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-hospitalizations
Diamond Lights
Didier Zokora
agree, same as in UK. my point is that masks reintroduced.
However, masks are currently, as of today, still required on transport in UK. And i've been going back to work 3 days a week in London, trust me when i say a minimum of 30% of those travelling on TFL (Tube, Rail) are not wearing a mask now.
So with people going banging on about whether there's a mask mandate or not, we've already proved we can't trust people to make the basic right decision because a large proportion do not do it now, when the structure is in place to ensure it.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
It could, it could not too
fudging doom mongers !!!
The SNP's Patricia Gibson raises concerns that unlocking the UK so quickly could give rise to a new variant which is resistant to vaccines.
fudging doom mongers !!!
The SNP's Patricia Gibson raises concerns that unlocking the UK so quickly could give rise to a new variant which is resistant to vaccines.
Agreed. There is no point to continue the mandate of masks. It's not going to be policed. Even if it was and 100% of people wear masks on public transport. It would be pointless. Because people are mixing at work, in pubs, football grounds, restaurants, in each others homes etc... where masks aren't required.
We have seen in areas where the delta variant peaked early a levelling off (and even a fall) in new cases. This hopefully means that herd immunity has been reached in those areas and the rest of the country should follow suit. Especially as we are still vaccinating.
Some politicians seem to cling to the idea that we can still eradicate the virus. We can't, it's endemic. So there will always be a threat of a new variant resistant to vaccines. Whether we unlock now or in 10 years time.
How about we compromise on a solution.
The ugly and the fat continue to wear masks and everyone else doesn't. That way there's some other tangible benefit of wearing masks (not having to look at unattractive people) as well.
Public transport, particularly the tube in rush hour would be particularly bad in terms of spreading covid.
As long as deaths aren't going up at a high rate, the more cases the better.
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Mikey10
John Lacy
It’ll happen here too as we move into Autumn and the NHS comes under pressure. We’ll be advised to socially distance again too at that stage, I reckon. Noticeably, there wasn’t too much mention of things being irreversible yesterday.
Fingers crossed they both stay reasonably steady over the next month. If they do, we’re in a decent place - for now.
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ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
Has it been declared scientifically here 'forever' ?
Are people still catching variants of SARS etc?