We have broken him!
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Antonio Conte - officially NOT the coach of THFC
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Baleforce
Ron Henry
its self deprecating humour, it takes an arrogance to do that job, he thinks he's really good
nothing of concern imo, just more data for him
Seems like he’s asking for the sack. Players remain the same results don’t change and so on.
All very negative.
At least give Son and Kulu a chance to support Kane. We were playing 7 across the back with 2 CMs on their laps against Burnley.
glasgowspur
Nayim
I wouldn't read to much into anything he says after a defeat, he will be hurting.
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
Jesus I like the bloke but his public utterances are becoming a bit of a problem. You can make excuses like language barrier or slip of the tongue but it's every time something goes wrong now he says something to set the media and supporters off.
There's a lot of Conte-driven smoke and that usually indicates a fire.
There's a lot of Conte-driven smoke and that usually indicates a fire.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
I think Kulu has been good, Son needs a kick up the arse, he's been brick, for ages now, Kane is Jekyll & Hyde, he was very poor tonight, after singlehandedly beating City at the weekend.
One of those two should be enough, both should be a guarantee.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
I don't think so, I like his honesty.
I liked it from Jose too, for some reason, some find it more palatable from Conte.
He's also said we need to suffer if we lose. This is him suffering.
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
This isn't just some naive rookie saying it as it is. He knows the game. He knows how the media work. Listen to what he's saying. There's a problem.
I'm slightly paraphrasing but The Athletic are reporting "In this club they always change the coach and not the players. The players are the same but the results don't change" and "if we continue this way, we can finish 10th, 12th, 13th the same way that when I arrive here."
The guy is also talking openly about his own future perhaps not being with us. If alarm bells aren't going off, you're not paying attention.
This feels like a bit of a pivotal moment.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
not an issue imo, he speaks directly to them, they know how it works
Would you rather he be all smiles after a loss? He hates losing. Good.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Good. Hope he keeps going, tbh - more home truths, in more media, more frequently.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
yeah, we know that, some of the players are clams, they've got three managers fired by "being clams"
we've changed the structure of the club, I'm confident Levy will handle things differently this time, that's why we have Paratici, that's why Nuno was kicked out long before his record justified it, and why we've hired Conte
Levy has realised the mistake he made getting rid of Jose so quickly, the same way he learned from binning AVB too early, which probably was why we gave Poch so much time in the hope he'd turn it around
he's using the media to send messages, up and down
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
I hope you're right. Conte walks before the summer and there will be anarchy. Club will be a laughing stock, lose a lot of credibility within the game, Levy has nowhere else to go in terms of managers and the players will be wondering WTF is going on. The atmosphere at the stadium will be beyond poisonous.
Whatever is going on, Levy has got to do everything reasonably possible to keep Conte happy.
Legohamster
Cecil Poynton
He is right though.
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
Goals are our problem. We have a goal difference of -1. We are totally reliant on Kane and Son. Virtually no goals from wingbacks, support forwards, central midfielders or defenders (from corners or free kicks). When have we scored three or more goals within 90 minutes . At least with much maligned Mourinho we scored 6 at old trafford and stuffed Burnley for five. That season we had a very respectable goal difference.
Our wingbacks offer nothing at present. They have no pace, no trickery, can't beat a man, can't get to the by-line and on the rare occasions they do, can't deliver a decent cross. Wingbacks are our achilles heal. I am not surprised that Conte wanted Traore and Diaz. These guys offer pace, trickery and game changing moments. We don't have that from our wingbacks at the moment. Far from it. Sess is frightened of his own shadow and Royal gets into some decent positions and then fluffs his line. Really really poor from supposedly top footballers.
Our wingbacks offer nothing at present. They have no pace, no trickery, can't beat a man, can't get to the by-line and on the rare occasions they do, can't deliver a decent cross. Wingbacks are our achilles heal. I am not surprised that Conte wanted Traore and Diaz. These guys offer pace, trickery and game changing moments. We don't have that from our wingbacks at the moment. Far from it. Sess is frightened of his own shadow and Royal gets into some decent positions and then fluffs his line. Really really poor from supposedly top footballers.
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
No of course not. There are a lot of options in between those two extremes. What he's saying is stuff you don't hear from managers who are happy in their job or see things working out the way they want. Did you ever hear Klopp saying this stuff even in his first season when Liverpool were finishing 8th?
What he's saying indicates a pretty deep problem. Will it cause him to walk? fudge knows. If I was a betting man, I'd say no. But I know it's not good.
He should tell the media how disappointed he is and that we should be doing better. Anything beyond that, he should be keeping behind closed doors. This fella isn't a rookie, he knows what he's doing by saying this stuff.