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Tottenham Hotspur Stadium - Licence To Stand
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Notmegov
Roman Pavlyuchenko
Re: Northumberland Development Project
Or is it lazy **** journalists browse forum's hunting for stories?
who says that the club dont monitor fan forums.............hi Danny boy
Or is it lazy **** journalists browse forum's hunting for stories?
Whiffler
Jermaine Jenas
Re: Northumberland Development Project
Other issues with Wembley - matches are often re-arranged at a few weeks notice for TV transmission - especially the bigger ones.
Also any that result from either team's cup clashes, or from foul weather.
I can see MK being useful for all the midlands away fans, but are there enough Spursaholics from further north who will step up to the plate to make it a home ground for us?.
Other issues with Wembley - matches are often re-arranged at a few weeks notice for TV transmission - especially the bigger ones.
Also any that result from either team's cup clashes, or from foul weather.
I can see MK being useful for all the midlands away fans, but are there enough Spursaholics from further north who will step up to the plate to make it a home ground for us?.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Re: Northumberland Development Project
Yeah - I remember perhaps £250m is the stadium and £400m is the overall cost. The £250m figure was given because that was how much building the same stadium at the Olympic sight was going to cost us. The extra £150m was for the land purchases and all the infrastructure improvements we have to do as part of getting planning permission. A lot of this will already have been paid for (property purchasing of the Wingate has been going on for more than a decade and the major's office are picking up a lot of the associated costs as their shush money for the OS fiasco).
I read the original statement that the £40m loan from ENIC to THFC was to pay off all our existing debts, to give us a clear credit rating for getting new commercial loans at the best rate. Not that the £40m was towards the project.
Yeah - I remember perhaps £250m is the stadium and £400m is the overall cost. The £250m figure was given because that was how much building the same stadium at the Olympic sight was going to cost us. The extra £150m was for the land purchases and all the infrastructure improvements we have to do as part of getting planning permission. A lot of this will already have been paid for (property purchasing of the Wingate has been going on for more than a decade and the major's office are picking up a lot of the associated costs as their shush money for the OS fiasco).
I read the original statement that the £40m loan from ENIC to THFC was to pay off all our existing debts, to give us a clear credit rating for getting new commercial loans at the best rate. Not that the £40m was towards the project.
chancer
Gudni Bergsson
Re: Northumberland Development Project
My sense is that financing is not really an issue. For that matter, that single CPO hold-out doesn't seem like a significant impediment either. I think at this point its simply about logistics, timing and choreography. I don't think there are any serious blockages any more.
My sense is that financing is not really an issue. For that matter, that single CPO hold-out doesn't seem like a significant impediment either. I think at this point its simply about logistics, timing and choreography. I don't think there are any serious blockages any more.
Notmegov
Roman Pavlyuchenko
Re: Northumberland Development Project
Thank you, its the feeling i had but i just wanted some one to hold my hand and say it for me.
I feel a lot more positive about the whole thing now.
Thank you, its the feeling i had but i just wanted some one to hold my hand and say it for me.
I feel a lot more positive about the whole thing now.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Re: Northumberland Development Project
£250 million was the 'stadium only' build cost of The Emirates so has been used as a benchmark for the anticipated stadium only cost for our own stadium seeing as it has a similar design and footprint. The Emirates project was also said to be more complex than ours as they had two railway lines sited between the stadium and the access point for the building construction vehicles/materials necessitating them having to use more cranes and also construct two bridges.
£250 million was the 'stadium only' build cost of The Emirates so has been used as a benchmark for the anticipated stadium only cost for our own stadium seeing as it has a similar design and footprint. The Emirates project was also said to be more complex than ours as they had two railway lines sited between the stadium and the access point for the building construction vehicles/materials necessitating them having to use more cranes and also construct two bridges.
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Re: Northumberland Development Project
The alternative would be wasting money on something that isn't guaranteed to happen. Once the CPO comes through Archway will first have to relocate (and who knows what kind of deadlines they'll be given), then the lot can be cleared and all the necessary documents put together, although I'm sure they'll already have spoken with companies that are likely to submit bids. A project this large and complex isn't put together in a couple of days.
The alternative would be wasting money on something that isn't guaranteed to happen. Once the CPO comes through Archway will first have to relocate (and who knows what kind of deadlines they'll be given), then the lot can be cleared and all the necessary documents put together, although I'm sure they'll already have spoken with companies that are likely to submit bids. A project this large and complex isn't put together in a couple of days.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Re: Northumberland Development Project
We haven't got planning permission for the revised design/increased capacity.
We haven't got planning permission for the revised design/increased capacity.
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Re: Northumberland Development Project
Thought we were given to understand the redesign was not that substantial and would therefore not need to go through the planning process again.:-k
Thought we were given to understand the redesign was not that substantial and would therefore not need to go through the planning process again.:-k
jts1882
Dean Richards
Re: Northumberland Development Project
The revisions for the north and south developments (back in 2011?) mentioned that a future revised application would be put in for the stadium. It was needed for the revised podium at least. These applications took about three months to be approved so the if the stadium changes are minor that is the minimum time. So by the time the CPO is approved, the end of July will be the earliest a revised application could be approved. Add some time to prepare the final application, a bit of extra time to handle any issues raised by the inevitable objectors, and time to prepare the bid documents and we are into Autumn and near end of the year.
The revisions for the north and south developments (back in 2011?) mentioned that a future revised application would be put in for the stadium. It was needed for the revised podium at least. These applications took about three months to be approved so the if the stadium changes are minor that is the minimum time. So by the time the CPO is approved, the end of July will be the earliest a revised application could be approved. Add some time to prepare the final application, a bit of extra time to handle any issues raised by the inevitable objectors, and time to prepare the bid documents and we are into Autumn and near end of the year.
Re: Northumberland Development Project
The club has unofficially claimed that Populous are only working on minor changes to the interior elements of the stadium. But that's probably because they don't want to reveal their hand at this stage. They will apply for new planning consent, if required, only when the new design has been completed.
The club has unofficially claimed that Populous are only working on minor changes to the interior elements of the stadium. But that's probably because they don't want to reveal their hand at this stage. They will apply for new planning consent, if required, only when the new design has been completed.
Re: Northumberland Development Project
At the very least, you were being somewhat dismissive of the £40m loan.
At the very least, you were being somewhat dismissive of the £40m loan.
milo
Jack L. Jones
Re: Northumberland Development Project
This is a friend of a friend anecdote, so take as many pinches of salt as you think necessary.
A mate of mine met one of the new architects at a party recently. He said that the original design was ditched because it was not distinctive enough and too similar to the Emirates. I'd take from this that there is going to be a pretty substantial redesign.
This is a friend of a friend anecdote, so take as many pinches of salt as you think necessary.
A mate of mine met one of the new architects at a party recently. He said that the original design was ditched because it was not distinctive enough and too similar to the Emirates. I'd take from this that there is going to be a pretty substantial redesign.
Re: Northumberland Development Project
They've considered skinning the building. I can only assume they've changed plans again as I'm pretty sure I'd have heard about it if they continued down that line.
They've considered skinning the building. I can only assume they've changed plans again as I'm pretty sure I'd have heard about it if they continued down that line.
chancer
Gudni Bergsson
Re: Northumberland Development Project
What does that mean? Is it keeping the underlying design/architecture/engineering, but just slinging a superficial cladding of some kind on top to give it a distinctive look?
What does that mean? Is it keeping the underlying design/architecture/engineering, but just slinging a superficial cladding of some kind on top to give it a distinctive look?
milo
Jack L. Jones
Re: Northumberland Development Project
Yes.
What I was told was that there was a feeling that the previous design was a bit off the shelf and very similar to stuff that the architects had done for other clients before. The club want something that is more distinctive, presumably in part because that may attract a higher naming rights deal.
Yes.
What I was told was that there was a feeling that the previous design was a bit off the shelf and very similar to stuff that the architects had done for other clients before. The club want something that is more distinctive, presumably in part because that may attract a higher naming rights deal.
