Yes but chelsea is 2 companies chelsea football club. Then fordstam limited which chelsea owe over £1.5bn debt to. Abramovich is still putting money into them £20m last season.
Also radcliffe just bought nice.
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Putin & Russia
- Thread starter Rorschach
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Yes but chelsea is 2 companies chelsea football club. Then fordstam limited which chelsea owe over £1.5bn debt to. Abramovich is still putting money into them £20m last season.
Also radcliffe just bought nice.
Just the invasion. Not much point trying to price in nuclear war - although it would be water that went up if people tried.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Two or three controlled explosions on their own territory could cut off half of Russia's gas exports
Two or three controlled explosions on their own territory could cut off half of Russia's gas exports
That fudges over the eu not russia. Although we are coming out of winter now.
I've just recognised all of Russia's oil and gas fields as independent states.
Now we just have to send in the military and they're ours.
Junior19
Øyvind Leonhardsen
Well, well, well. The actors in our play has taken their stage positions.
Vladimir Putin has taken the role as the villain with the moustache (sans moustache), that much is clear.
The little tramp certainly has gone and done it again.
What really scares the bejaisus out of me is that it appears we've cast Boris J in the role as Churchill...
Vladimir Putin has taken the role as the villain with the moustache (sans moustache), that much is clear.
The little tramp certainly has gone and done it again.
What really scares the bejaisus out of me is that it appears we've cast Boris J in the role as Churchill...
He cast himself in that role years before anyone took his plans for PM seriously.
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
Don't worry, we've stopped flights to Russia, going to crack down on property ownership in London (nice way to make a few quid for the Govt)....oh, and Russia has to buy it's USB sticks and webcams from China now....
FolkestoneSpur
Neil Ruddock
Reuters saying Russian troops have taken the Chenobyl nuclear site. A frightening strategy to say the least. This is going to escalate so horribly.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Not much else can be done immediately, unless you're willing to gamble a nuclear war by imposing an NFZ on Ukraine. We failed to back Ukraine when it mattered. We are paying for it now.
But avenging them is within our power.
Cut Russia out of the world economy, end their access to SWIFT, round up the oligarchs in London, Paris, Brussels and Florida, send them packing home.
Step up NATO forward deployments to the Baltic countries, reopen permanent basing for US, British and Canadian assets in Germany, extend invitations to Sweden, Finland and Moldova so that wherever Putin looks west of Ukraine, there is a NATO fist waiting.
Arm the insurgency in Ukraine, recognize the Ukrainian government in exile, increase our media penetration in Russia, conduct offensive cyberwarfare operations to cripple oil and gas infrastructure, destabilize Putin's gangster regime and let ordinary Russians bring down the man who led them to ruin.
Ukraine is our failure, but we can make damn sure that another Ukraine is made utterly impossible, and that Putin suffers for his actions today.
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
Well that's my Holiday ruined
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
I agree fully with all of that except the choice that we shouldn't impose a NFZ over Ukraine.
It's very risky, but it has to be done. Not only to stop Putin and his short man complex now, but to stop others like him in future.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Oh, and another thing - there is over $1T in military hardware exported by Russia around the world, with one of the biggest buyers being India with its 250 Su-30 MKI Flanker aircraft, Mig-29s, Mig-21s, S-400s, Kiev- class carrier, Kilo-class and Akula-class submarines, S-400s, T-72 and T-90 tanks...
...it's time to become much, much more targeted with CAATSA, to shut down this global market for military hardware that sustains Russia's military industrial complex to this day with tens of billions of dollars every year in contracts for sales, spares and equipment.
The West has a chance here to wean India and dozens of other countries off their dependence on Russian equipment by combining the threat of CAATSA with the offer of Western alternatives - our fighters, our ships, our tanks, which in any case are superior to their Russian counterparts.
Even if India and other countries balance replacing their Russian hardware with domestic arms alongside imports, that's still a huge potential market for our own arms industries to fill - millions of jobs, billions of dollars.
And India is both a democracy, and friendly to Washington and the West in view of the China threat - they would prefer to keep trade and partnership going as opposed to refusing to buckle and sticking with an increasingly isolated Russia in the face of the sanctions threat. Played right, this crisis could be what turns India and many other nations firmly into Western allies.
...it's time to become much, much more targeted with CAATSA, to shut down this global market for military hardware that sustains Russia's military industrial complex to this day with tens of billions of dollars every year in contracts for sales, spares and equipment.
The West has a chance here to wean India and dozens of other countries off their dependence on Russian equipment by combining the threat of CAATSA with the offer of Western alternatives - our fighters, our ships, our tanks, which in any case are superior to their Russian counterparts.
Even if India and other countries balance replacing their Russian hardware with domestic arms alongside imports, that's still a huge potential market for our own arms industries to fill - millions of jobs, billions of dollars.
And India is both a democracy, and friendly to Washington and the West in view of the China threat - they would prefer to keep trade and partnership going as opposed to refusing to buckle and sticking with an increasingly isolated Russia in the face of the sanctions threat. Played right, this crisis could be what turns India and many other nations firmly into Western allies.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
How would you have backed Ukraine earlier?
I guess the sanctions aim to get Russia to back down at some point, promising lifted sanctions if Russia back down at some point. Putin can't accept anything that can't be spun as a victory, so would probably have to include other compromises too...
Difficult to see a swift return to peace for me at least.
I think there needs to be punitive sanctions well beyond any resolution to the current conflict. But at the same time if that delays peace, and mostly hurts the common person... That's not an easy decision.
Can only hope that the negative reaction to Putin in Russia grows, and quickly. But that seems like hoping for a lot.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
I'm sorry, that was just noise.
