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Ledley King
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Couldnt get in the Blackburn team - thats enough for me
Gallas when fit
King sadly no longer
Kaboul when fit
Dawson long term injury.
From what I've seen of Wolves meltdown Bassong isn't the main culprit.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
I don't understand your point. Of course they are only better when fit. Kaboul is not an injury prone player, he has played the vast majority of our league games this season. Dawson was fit or close to fitness when Bassong was allowed to go out on a loan and King is still a good player despite one poor game. My point was, why would you want a squad/backup player that needs an extended run in the team to perform? He isn't going to get that when there are several better players in the squad. Much better to have someone solid, someone who can come in and do a job straight away.
I do hope those hoping for Bassong to be a part of our squad in the future have better arguments than "he's not the main culprit of the Wolves meltdown", cause not being the main culprit of the meltdown of the worst team in the league is not really what I look for in a Spurs player.
Not sold on Vertonghen, would rather we went for Hummels, Subotic or in a perfect world both!
Kaboul and Dawson are prone to lapses in concentration which can cost goals and has done in the past I'm not sure going forward I'd want either in any other role than bench warmers. Caulker looks very promising and sparked my interest whilst watching him a few times at Bristol City but I doubt he's ready for pressures of our first eleven week in week out, certainly should get some games though.
I'd write off Gallas, Nelsen and sadly King based on age and mounting injury problems for next season, that leaves us very short on defenders. Naughton cover for Walker, Benny also needs someone to push him for a place.
I think Levy has some hard decisions to make this summer, either we spend big on 4-5 players or the squad regresses and loses a lot of talent through natural wastage and the possiblity of Modric, Bale or VdV moving on. We really needed to be moving into the new stadium next season, I have a nagging feeling that Levy may not be able to finance the continued push for top 4 over the next few seasons and we've peaked for now. Potential revenue from CL qualification this year is so crucial to maintaining the clubs forward momentum.
Kaboul and Dawson are prone to lapses in concentration which can cost goals and has done in the past I'm not sure going forward I'd want either in any other role than bench warmers. Caulker looks very promising and sparked my interest whilst watching him a few times at Bristol City but I doubt he's ready for pressures of our first eleven week in week out, certainly should get some games though.
I'd write off Gallas, Nelsen and sadly King based on age and mounting injury problems for next season, that leaves us very short on defenders. Naughton cover for Walker, Benny also needs someone to push him for a place.
I think Levy has some hard decisions to make this summer, either we spend big on 4-5 players or the squad regresses and loses a lot of talent through natural wastage and the possiblity of Modric, Bale or VdV moving on. We really needed to be moving into the new stadium next season, I have a nagging feeling that Levy may not be able to finance the continued push for top 4 over the next few seasons and we've peaked for now. Potential revenue from CL qualification this year is so crucial to maintaining the clubs forward momentum.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Not gonna happen. Why not sign G?Âtze while we're at it? Cheeky bid for Schweinsteiger?
I'm happy to keep either Dawson or Kaboul but I dont think there is room for both of them really. Would rather Caulker became the back up instead and we buy one other top class CB.
Not advocating Bassong as a solution. That ship has sailed. Simply pointing out that he has poorly treated in his time at Spurs.
Left sided too.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Brought in for a good chunk of money, reportedly on very good wages too. Did quite well first season, later overtaken by better players. Given several chances since to prove himself good enough, like most of our other squad players have, never took those chances. Given a loan to another PL club to either prove himself good enough for us or to get a move somewhere else at some point.
To me that's not being poorly treated, what more should a good, but far from great footballer expect?
southstand1882
Mitchell Thomas
Ledley King, the Tottenham captain, has laughed off talk that the club were in
crisis and said that the players would hold a meeting in which they would
resolve to remain unified until the end of the season.
A sequence of just three wins in 13 Premier League games has unexpectedly
placed a top-four finish in doubt, with Tottenham now embroiled in a battle
with Arsenal, Chelsea and Saudi Sportswashing Machine for just two Champions league
places.
Harry RedknappÔÇÖs team held a 10-point advantage over Arsenal less than two
months ago but could fall five points behind their north London rivals on
Wednesday.
Saudi Sportswashing Machine have also now drawn level on points with Tottenham in fourth
following their 2-0 victory over Bolton Wanderers on Monday while Chelsea
are only two further points adrift.
Tottenham
Hotspur were beaten 2-1 by Norwich at White Hart Lane on Monday and,
as captain, King intended to speak with his team-mates at the clubÔÇÖs
Chigwell training base on Tuesday.
ÔÇ£We will have to look at a few things and have a few words,ÔÇØ said King. ÔÇ£I
think the earlier we kind of have a speak together about it, the better it
will be.
ÔÇ£The only thing that needs to be said is that we need to stick together. We
need to keep going until the end of the season and we need to keep working
hard for each other. ThatÔÇÖs the only way.
ÔÇ£ItÔÇÖs up to the senior lads to lift the spirits of the rest of the lads and
keep them there. There arenÔÇÖt many games now and we just have to give it a
big push until then. There is not a crisis in any way. We have top players.ÔÇØ
Tottenham, though, are facing further injury concerns, especially in defence
where Michael Dawson has already been ruled for the season with an ankle
injury. William Gallas missed MondayÔÇÖs game against Norwich with a calf
problem while King will assess his knee before deciding whether he can start
SundayÔÇÖs FA Cup semi-final against Chelsea.
ÔÇ£I should be all right,ÔÇØ said King. ÔÇ£We will see how it feels over the next
couple of days.ÔÇØ
Tottenham are also awaiting news on defender Younes Kaboul, who had to be
substituted against Norwich with a knee injury, as well as midfielder Scott
Parker. Redknapp said that Kaboul ÔÇ£does not look very goodÔÇØ but was hopeful
on Parker.
ÔÇ£We felt if Scott played [against Norwich] he could have torn both
hamstrings,ÔÇØ said Redknapp. ÔÇ£I donÔÇÖt take too many chances. If he had been
fit he would have played. He came in for treatment and he said he felt like
both hamstrings were going to tear.ÔÇØ
crisis and said that the players would hold a meeting in which they would
resolve to remain unified until the end of the season.
A sequence of just three wins in 13 Premier League games has unexpectedly
placed a top-four finish in doubt, with Tottenham now embroiled in a battle
with Arsenal, Chelsea and Saudi Sportswashing Machine for just two Champions league
places.
Harry RedknappÔÇÖs team held a 10-point advantage over Arsenal less than two
months ago but could fall five points behind their north London rivals on
Wednesday.
Saudi Sportswashing Machine have also now drawn level on points with Tottenham in fourth
following their 2-0 victory over Bolton Wanderers on Monday while Chelsea
are only two further points adrift.
Tottenham
Hotspur were beaten 2-1 by Norwich at White Hart Lane on Monday and,
as captain, King intended to speak with his team-mates at the clubÔÇÖs
Chigwell training base on Tuesday.
ÔÇ£We will have to look at a few things and have a few words,ÔÇØ said King. ÔÇ£I
think the earlier we kind of have a speak together about it, the better it
will be.
ÔÇ£The only thing that needs to be said is that we need to stick together. We
need to keep going until the end of the season and we need to keep working
hard for each other. ThatÔÇÖs the only way.
ÔÇ£ItÔÇÖs up to the senior lads to lift the spirits of the rest of the lads and
keep them there. There arenÔÇÖt many games now and we just have to give it a
big push until then. There is not a crisis in any way. We have top players.ÔÇØ
Tottenham, though, are facing further injury concerns, especially in defence
where Michael Dawson has already been ruled for the season with an ankle
injury. William Gallas missed MondayÔÇÖs game against Norwich with a calf
problem while King will assess his knee before deciding whether he can start
SundayÔÇÖs FA Cup semi-final against Chelsea.
ÔÇ£I should be all right,ÔÇØ said King. ÔÇ£We will see how it feels over the next
couple of days.ÔÇØ
Tottenham are also awaiting news on defender Younes Kaboul, who had to be
substituted against Norwich with a knee injury, as well as midfielder Scott
Parker. Redknapp said that Kaboul ÔÇ£does not look very goodÔÇØ but was hopeful
on Parker.
ÔÇ£We felt if Scott played [against Norwich] he could have torn both
hamstrings,ÔÇØ said Redknapp. ÔÇ£I donÔÇÖt take too many chances. If he had been
fit he would have played. He came in for treatment and he said he felt like
both hamstrings were going to tear.ÔÇØ
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
no disrespect to quite a few posters on here , i really do respect your opinions and i do learn a great deal on this place despite my frequent arrogance but i have to say i wont listen to this thing about king. i think people are almost making this stuff up. the game against norwich is the only game i can think of to mind that king has been bad, and by bad i mean kaboul-potential-to-be-bad type bad.
quite frankly i cant believe that the level of dissapointment in whats been a good season is made people actually do this.
VERY sad day.
and kaboul wishes he has kings awareness and natural ability.
i feel like crying..., and now i feel like throwing my monitor at my colleagues face (arsenal supporter).....
quite frankly i cant believe that the level of dissapointment in whats been a good season is made people actually do this.
VERY sad day.
and kaboul wishes he has kings awareness and natural ability.
i feel like crying..., and now i feel like throwing my monitor at my colleagues face (arsenal supporter).....
elyid
Gerry Armstrong
To be fair to Bassong he put in some immersive performances when we qualified for CL. In fact, him and Dawson were both excellent for long periods.
Shame he had a stinker when it mattered most against Young Boys.
I guess the only real unfair treatment was that he was overlooked a lot after that, but he also had a few other bad cameo appearances which didn't help his case.
elyid
Gerry Armstrong
Hmmm....Quite heartening to see someone who follows us in such detail say this.
However, I personally think King's had more 'treading water' moments in the past 4 months than his entire career - to me it seems his mind is still there but the body just cannot keep up.
It is very sad to see, but on the plus side we have had many, many more fantastic performances out of him that I would ever have thought possible - and despite his decline hopefully a few more to come.
Mosquito_Coasting
Jonathan Woodgate
I'd rather see Bassong and Dawson again than most combinations containing Kaboul. Gallas is our most inform CB at the moment though.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Well, you've got your wish, now that Kaboul appears injured. Take your pick; King/Gallas, Gallas/Nelsen, or King/Nelsen. Hooray for defensive solidity!
Actually, it appears Gallas may be injured as well. So King/Nelsen, up against Torres, Mata, Sturridge and Ramires. Hooray!
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Massive experience in that lot but not great pace. Hopefully Gallas makes it and I guess Kaboul still might.
You count for King being shaky and fatigued, thats 4 CBs either out, or seriously struggling to be fit. Our first four too!
That leaves one loveable Kiwi...and Bassong, who is actually, truely uneligible