Mikey10
John Lacy
The lack of simple restrictions - such as masks on public transport - is going to lead to the need for harsher measures over winter, in my opinion.
The messaging, which suggests that ‘covid is over’, is also unhelpful.
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The lack of simple restrictions - such as masks on public transport - is going to lead to the need for harsher measures over winter, in my opinion.
The messaging, which suggests that ‘covid is over’, is also unhelpful.
He's a teacher. I think he's just proposing not going to work.
COVID is over. fudge it.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
shops and offices too, its such a simple thing, there are exemptions for those who need it, the rest of us should be wearing masks
Why? We want to be exposed to it now. That is your booster and increases your immunity. Watch the vid i posted above. We are all going to get it. So you want exposure now while immunity is strong from vaccination or before it mutates again.
We will give boosters to the vulnerable over winter. But for everyone else it's better to be exposed.
No point now. I keep forgetting mine anyway and I'm not going home to get one.
AuroRaman
Chris Armstrong
I wouldn't refuse to, but nobody's insisting on it, so why would I voluntarily go through all that effort?
Diamond Lights
Didier Zokora
been going to work 3 days a week roughly, masks are definitely a thing of the past on public transport.
AuroRaman
Chris Armstrong
I just never want to miss an opportunity to post that gif
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
Herd immunity is always achievable, especially if 'everyone' is going to get it.
It then depends on the variants and the antigenic drift' of the virus. Flu there are four strains and they're changing all the time, hence having to 'live' with it.
Maybe 'the herd' can tread down on this virus to a greater degree. If we are going to decide to stop hiding from it, (as implied) that carries risk BUT may also carry a benefit as the number of infected increases rapidly(ie the herd)and fresh hosts decline . The virus then has to be clever enough to mutate enough to either increase severity of symptoms (enough to cause concern) or avoid existing immunity (natural or vaccine) altogether, basically putting us back to square one.
It's just as likely to not be smart enough, and we end up so many steps ahead that it fades out. Sars 1 etc.
Did you not watch the video?
We are getting a scientific consesus now that herd immunity will not be achievable. Due to breakthrough infections and waning immunity. In the uk almost 100% of people have antibodies now. The virus is just plodding along no problem.
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
He says none of this bit.
He says it in the first minute. Even if you are vaccinated you can still be transmissable.
As for the amount of the population that have antibodies. As of 9th of august 94.1% of the population in england had antibodies. That would have obviously increased since.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...s/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/antibodies
It's not just the uk that think herd immunity is unachievable.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210827-has-delta-killed-the-herd-immunity-dream
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/12/her...with-the-covid-delta-variant-experts-say.html
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210827-has-delta-killed-the-herd-immunity-dream
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/12/her...with-the-covid-delta-variant-experts-say.html
elyid
Gerry Armstrong
I know people say “it’s only a mask”, but I would say my daily journey is at least 10 times more pleasant since not wearing one. Fresh air in the face etc.
If someone is that worried just get an n95 mask for themselves. it doesn’t need other people to be involved.
Diamond Lights
Didier Zokora
wonder what fresh air you get on the Central Line.
elyid
Gerry Armstrong
Still way more pleasant than some factory produced material pressed against your face.
It’s been 18 months, people need to look after themselves. The means are there.