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Christian Eriksen

glasgowspur said:
Silva is a good comparison as a player, but us and Emirates Marketing Project are not in any way comparable as teams. Apart from any thing else their midfield is way more experienced.
Our midfield is there yet, not because any of them aren't good enough, but because they lack experience. I honestly think if we can keep the youngsters together for another two seasons we will reap the rewards.
They are still finding their best roles and growing into them.
Eriksen, mason and bentaleb can be our core.
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Sorry Glasgow, i was replying to Ringo......I know we've covered this earlier in the thread, and i agree with what you say. Whether we can wait (i know i can, its the others;)) that long is another matter.
 
We have to accept Eriksen isn't at the level of someone like Silva at present. If he was then he wouldn't be at Spurs. Obviously I hope he continues to improve.
 
Needs to work harder both offensively and defensively imo, drifts in and out of games far too much. This is his third season in PL now and he should be fully up to speed with the requirements of this league. He allowed the Stoke player to run past him and put in the cross which led to their equalising goal last week. His lack of tracking back was a problem last season it is obviously something he still needs to work on. He would not survive in a top 4 team like bluescum, a manager like mourinho would have dropped him by now just for neglecting defensive duties.
 
Well we missed him yesterday, he is the only player we have in M/F who can see further then the end of his nose.
 
parklane1 said:
Very true, but he is 6 years younger so he has the time to improve.
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If you haven't got it at 23 then you're not going to have it better at 29. The raw skills and attributes that make a special player special he already has when he's a young man. People think that a good player might become a great player at 26 onwards. The great players are already great by their early 20s.

I'm not saying that Eriksen hasn't got it but he's a very good player, not world class and not by any means a great player. We have probably seen the best that he is going to get to.
 
GinolaGinolaGinola said:
If you haven't got it at 23 then you're not going to have it better at 29. The raw skills and attributes that make a special player special he already has when he's a young man. People think that a good player might become a great player at 26 onwards. The great players are already great by their early 20s.

I'm not saying that Eriksen hasn't got it but he's a very good player, not world class and not by any means a great player. We have probably seen the best that he is going to get to.
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Firstly I have never said he is world class that is a statement which is used far to often about so many players , wrongly in my view. What he is though is a very good player who has the ability to be even better, however at the moment we do not play to his strength. I have seen him create space and beat men and look up and there are no runners for him to pass to and so he ends up getting crowded out.

IMO he is probably our most talented player but he needs help in CM and he does not get and why Poch is looking at alternatives.
 
No completely agree Parklane. I never said you said he was world class just saying that I don't think he is. He is our best player of natural talent, there is a possibility he can become a better player, but I think he is at his best now. He needs to play with players on his level which can then make him a better player.
 
GinolaGinolaGinola said:
No completely agree Parklane. I never said you said he was world class just saying that I don't think he is. He is our best player of natural talent, there is a possibility he can become a better player, but I think he is at his best now. He needs to play with players on his level which can then make him a better player.
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This is the crux for me, the other players around him are not ( imo) in his class and the help he gets from ( especially) the other CM players is poor. Now I know they are still young and may improve but I am not sure they will, I am encouraged by the little I have seen of Alli as he seems to make the right runs and looks for the space to run into, something that Eriksen will thrive on.

I think where we disagree over this is can he become a better player and my answer to that is yes he can, he is a intelligent player and with the right players around him will do so. Lets hope for our/Spurs sake he will.
 
would've put this in the Pritchard forum, but i'd not be too disappointed if he was sold at the end of the window.

He doesn't fit what Poch wants to do (i.e. he's too slow and slows down our counter attacks way to much). I think he's disposable now with both Njie, Carroll, and Pritchard and feel we'd score a lot more goals from open play than we do with him in the team.

Sure he scores plenty when the ball is sitting still but I'd like to see us create more in open play and think we wouldn't be missing too much if he were to be moved on. He's just not what we need in that front left position in midfield and doesn't play as a VDV type off of Kane in the position just in behind.

maybe in another team or formation but not in ours
 
We'll miss him when he goes: I don't think we really fully realize how good he is now, or what he brings to the side. He presses more than a typical player in his position does, he's outstanding when it comes to playing slide-rule passes into tight pockets of space, and he's obviously gifted when it comes to both free kicks and finishing. I largely agree with @parklane1 : his struggles are down to us not having pacy players that can run onto his passes in behind and create space for themselves/finish, and in the absence of such players, he's largely forced to slow down and wait for Chadli/Lamela/Kane to chug up into threatening positions, by which point the opposition usually gets back into shape and the chance disappears.

Give him the runners he needs around him, and I think we'll see a player who can blow to smithereens any output that the likes of Ozil and Fabregas can come up with: I really do think he's that good. And if we let him go instead....we'll end up dearly regretting it, imo.
 
DubaiSpur said:
We'll miss him when he goes: I don't think we really fully realize how good he is now, or what he brings to the side. He presses more than a typical player in his position does, he's outstanding when it comes to playing slide-rule passes into tight pockets of space, and he's obviously gifted when it comes to both free kicks and finishing. I largely agree with @parklane1 : his struggles are down to us not having pacy players that can run onto his passes in behind and create space for themselves/finish, and in the absence of such players, he's largely forced to slow down and wait for Chadli/Lamela/Kane to chug up into threatening positions, by which point the opposition usually gets back into shape and the chance disappears.

Give him the runners he needs around him, and I think we'll see a player who can blow to smithereens any output that the likes of Ozil and Fabregas can come up with: I really do think he's that good. And if we let him go instead....we'll end up dearly regretting it, imo.
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He's one of our best players and we are a better team with him in it than when he's not.
 
VolSpur said:
would've put this in the Pritchard forum, but i'd not be too disappointed if he was sold at the end of the window.

He doesn't fit what Poch wants to do (i.e. he's too slow and slows down our counter attacks way to much). I think he's disposable now with both Njie, Carroll, and Pritchard and feel we'd score a lot more goals from open play than we do with him in the team.

Sure he scores plenty when the ball is sitting still but I'd like to see us create more in open play and think we wouldn't be missing too much if he were to be moved on. He's just not what we need in that front left position in midfield and doesn't play as a VDV type off of Kane in the position just in behind.

maybe in another team or formation but not in ours
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are we talking about eriksen?

i dont get it.....the guy is class...where is this doubt coming from?
 
DubaiSpur said:
he's outstanding when it comes to playing slide-rule passes into tight pockets of space
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Is he really though? I think people want him to be a an Ozil/Silva type but I haven't seen much evidence of this supposed craft/guile/vision. His best form has been as a wide midfielder where he can drift undetected and this allows him to get amongst the goals, when he's played in the pocket it's all too congested for him and he's easily nullified as he just isn't sharp/quick/agile enough to really escape defenders. He's been getting a free pass for a while now, he has one goal in his last 20 games and that was a cross, he doesn't effect the game nearly enough to make up for the lack of output and I disagree that we missed him yesterday, we were no worse than the majority of games Eriksen has taken part in over the past six months.
 
While I think he should be doing a bit better overall, his game certainly is suffering because of lack of runners around him. Kane makes the runs but that is not enough. I think having Alli on will help his game as most of the others are looking for it to feet all the time.
 
Yoof said:
Is he really though? I think people want him to be a an Ozil/Silva type but I haven't seen much evidence of this supposed craft/guile/vision. His best form has been as a wide midfielder where he can drift undetected and this allows him to get amongst the goals, when he's played in the pocket it's all too congested for him and he's easily nullified as he just isn't sharp/quick/agile enough to really escape defenders. He's been getting a free pass for a while now, he has one goal in his last 20 games and that was a cross, he doesn't effect the game nearly enough to make up for the lack of output and I disagree that we missed him yesterday, we were no worse than the majority of games Eriksen has taken part in over the past six months.
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I agree with Yoof on this. He is actually not that good at those balls slid in to the runners. I was hoping to see a lot more of that type of thing really. In saying that we don't have that many players willing to run in behind often enough.
 
Gazzasrightboot said:
He's one of our best players and we are a better team with him in it than when he's not.
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tickle my balls with a feather, if we can get our other CM players to do as much as he does and run into space for him instead of standing still and watching he will be even better. From what I have seen of Alli he looks like he could.
 
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