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RIP David Bowie

LutonSpurs said:
Yes please.
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I'd go with Hunky Dory, Young Americans and Low. That would give you a decent spread of the range of his 70's work and they are all brilliant.

Iggy Pop's the Idiot and Lust for Life are both worth a listen too. Bowie produced, co-wrote and played on both of them and recorded them in the same year that he recorded Low and Heroes. It's a remarkable period of creativity.
 
I'm just sitting chilling and blasting some Bowie tracks as the mood takes me, by GHod old Mick Ronson new how to thrash out a good tune!
 
milo said:
I'd go with Hunky Dory, Young Americans and Low. That would give you a decent spread of the range of his 70's work and they are all brilliant.

Iggy Pop's the Idiot and Lust for Life are both worth a listen too. Bowie produced, co-wrote and played on both of them and recorded them in the same year that he recorded Low and Heroes. It's a remarkable period of creativity.
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And I would throw in Ziggy Stardust, Diamond Dogs and Heroes...Station To Station too...Milo remember that 'get a room category' hahahaha!
 
Seriously though @thfcsteff , to get a decent cross section you probably want one glam album, one plastic soul and one electronic. We could argue forever over which is the best of each.
 
The thing that strikes me about Lady Gaga is the similar breadth in her output over the first eight years of her career.
 
milo said:
I'd go with Hunky Dory, Young Americans and Low. That would give you a decent spread of the range of his 70's work and they are all brilliant.

Iggy Pop's the Idiot and Lust for Life are both worth a listen too. Bowie produced, co-wrote and played on both of them and recorded them in the same year that he recorded Low and Heroes. It's a remarkable period of creativity.
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Can't argue with those three from the 70s.
And I'd have Station to Station on the bench (much under rated vs Ziggy album IMO)
 
LutonSpurs said:
Also reading @scaramanga being typically provocative in his practise of free speech.
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I like that description, mind if I keep it to reuse?

LutonSpurs said:
It would be so cool if he wasn't so intolerant of other people's opinions but that's what comes with elitist privilege. That mindset where being a C.U.N.T is ok because you are more intelligent and earn more.
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I don't think I'm ever really intolerant of other people's opinions. I might hold them in very low esteem and feel they could benefit from educating away from them, but if someone has good reason to feel a certain way then it makes for good discussion.

Whilst I am thoroughly guilty of being more intelligent than most, I sincerely doubt I earn more than most on this forum. In fact, if salary were measured as a product of ability I'd probably rank somewhere near the bottom.

LutonSpurs said:
Also how can you actually argue wether people should enjoy a certain kind of music or not. It's completely relative. People have different tastes. It's like arguing about preferences in Cheese. Everyone is different and influenced by certain things but you have to be able to tolerate others preferences unless you are a complete an utter tool.
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I don't believe I did argue that.

I merely made the point that (despite a fair amount of effort) I don't rate his music and that I feel there's an element of Emporer's New Clothes when people name check him.
 
scaramanga said:
I like that description, mind if I keep it to reuse?


I don't think I'm ever really intolerant of other people's opinions. I might hold them in very low esteem and feel they could benefit from educating away from them, but if someone has good reason to feel a certain way then it makes for good discussion.

Whilst I am thoroughly guilty of being more intelligent than most, I sincerely doubt I earn more than most on this forum. In fact, if salary were measured as a product of ability I'd probably rank somewhere near the bottom.


I don't believe I did argue that.

I merely made the point that (despite a fair amount of effort) I don't rate his music and that I feel there's an element of Emporer's New Clothes when people name check him.
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Trust me. There nothing 'mere' about your 'point(s)'...
 
thfcsteff said:
Are you asking or do you know the story?
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When he had that obsession with Berlin and the 30's culture he said a few things that were odd. Can't remember them now but some commentators at the time thought it was just more outrageous behaviour on his part, rather than anything political. Think he associated with some dodgy types. As said above, he was also drug addled.
 
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He said Britain needed a fascist leader like a Hitler. I put it down to all the drugs and the stupid things famous people say from time to time. I think what he was alluding to was that at the time the was no strong leadership in the country. Strong leadership does not have to come from violence but can from people with convictions who hold true beliefs.

At least that is what I like to think he meant rather than he wanted to see Britain invade Poland and send Jews on a one way train trip. Either way he was just a forerunner for how musicians get asked so many leading questions by journos he gave a load of tosh as an answer.

Setting all that aside he is the finest musician this country has ever produced and his range and quality of music is something I admire, I have him ahead of Paul Weller on points.

Very sad he passed but glad he is not in pain any more.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
He said Britain needed a fascist leader like a Hitler. I put it down to all the drugs and the stupid things famous people say from time to time. I think what he was alluding to was that at the time the was no strong leadership in the country. Strong leadership does not have to come from violence but can from people with convictions who hold true beliefs.

At least that is what I like to think he meant rather than he wanted to see Britain invade Poland and send Jews on a one way train trip. Either way he was just a forerunner for how musicians get asked so many leading questions by journos he gave a load of tosh as an answer.

Setting all that aside he is the finest musician this country has ever produced and his range and quality of music is something I admire, I have him ahead of Paul Weller on points.

Very sad he passed but glad he is not in pain any more.
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Blimey, controversial statement there mate..... Paul weller!
My wife is a big fan of his, and I've heard all the hype but I don't get it. Been to a few of his concerts though and he's good live.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Setting all that aside he is the finest musician this country has ever produced and his range and quality of music is something I admire, I have him ahead of Paul Weller on points.
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I'd go a bit further to be honest. I think he'll be remembered as one of the defining artists of the past hundred years. For me he wasn't just in the very top tier when it comes to music, but as a visual artist he was equally revolutionary. He was at once fiercely intellectual and massively popular. "Clever and mainstream" is a near-impossible line to walk these days. He managed it. His influence is felt throughout modern culture in a way that few others are.

And when the music was good... by GHod it was great. At his best, Bowie was unparalleled. To compare him with Lady Gaga feels - to me - like either a deliberate troll or else a fundamental misunderstanding not just of David Bowie but of modern culture in general. scara would obviously disagree with that, which is fair enough. I'm not really interested in having that argument right now and it's all just opinions anyway.

For those asking for recommendations, others have already provided some excellent suggestions. It'd be quicker for me to list the Bowie albums that aren't essential listening, but narrowing it down to five; check out... Low, The Rise & Fall of Ziggy Stardust, Hunky Dory, "Heroes" and Outside (most Bowie fans would view Outside as a weak one - I personally love it). You can't really go wrong with anything from the 70s or the 90s ('Hours' is a bit weak, but still nice) and beyond. During the 80s he produced a string of fantastic singles but the albums all had too much filler. You can create a magnificent compilation album of tracks from the 80s but after 1981's Scary Monsters he didn't make another truly great album until 1995.
 
I agree with all of that @DublinSpur - I like Outside too but only have a shortened version because the full album was never released on vinyl.
 
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