Next Spurs Manager v.2

[milo]

If we wanted to have someone as asst coach to help the new man then surely Freund is the man?

He was brought in by Sherwood evidently, so maybe he will follow him to his next job.

I'd be happy to see Freund take over responsibility for the development squad and a job he would be well qualified for.

 

[Nigeyman]

Because some lad in the middle is precisely, exactly, nailed-on what we should not be doing. It is the elephant trap.


Top: LvG, Ancelotti, FdB...fantastic, give him £100m, leave him at it, let him hire/fire who he wants, give him a giant 5 year "project" contract, maybe he mentors in our next coach, name on the back of shirts, call the new stadium after him, glory glory. Brilliant.

Middle: We have to poach him from somewhere, might work/might not/ho-hum, we have to emotionally commit to him, he has to have a 3 or 4 year contract, we have to give him money to spend, is another trauma/expense/embarrassment to sack, new players he brings in after he's sacked will be Felleini'd, minimum time wasted is 2 seasons, may not get on with Levy/Baldini over time, in every pore of his body reeks of compromise and 2nd best-ness and everyone knows it - "Is this guy a glorified caretaker, or do we really believe in him?"

Bottom: Sherwood aka "worst manager in the whole world of football managers"...he's already here, you don't have to give him money to spend, Baldini and Levy can continue youth recruitment without having to listen to the coach whining, easy to sack, Levy & Baldini have already worked with him & relationships seem good, low expectations, buys time until we can get a proper "Top" choice, just might work out and be really good, he's not keeping anyone else out of the job since by definition if he's appointed our "Top" guys aren't available, maximum time wasted is 1 season.


Appointing some guy in the middle isn't "incremental" just because it's in the middle. It is, in fact, committing to mediocrity on purpose, with your eyes open. It lacks wisdom and imagination.

Dunno what your on lad but your posts recently have been charmont grade a*

sorry my nose is up your a** but you are fast becoming one of my fave posters!

 

[Cochise]

He was brought in by Sherwood evidently, so maybe he will follow him to his next job.

I'd be happy to see Freund take over responsibility for the development squad and a job he would be well qualified for.

Freund was here with AVB, or do you mean he was brought into the club by TS?

 

[Huddy]

SSN in 10 minutes.

 

[milo]

stop it...Ive had it on for hours in the background....

I mean the female presenter is lovely and all that....but so far its been utd, chelsea...bit of darts coverage with women with massive fake jubblys and pepe mel in a white cardigan!

I think that we need to find an appropriate punishment for KD's fibs. I'm off to talk to the OMT Gods and ask them if they have any suitable avatars knocking around.

 

[Nigeyman]

What the duck!!!

Duck tales awhoooooooooo..

 

[milo]

Freund was here with AVB, or do you mean he was brought into the club by TS?

Evidently he was brought into the club by Levy on Sherwood's recommendation. I will try to find where I read this.

 

[NWND]

Spalletti/Allegri with Di Matteo no 2?

Baldini doing the deals?

We'd become the Italian job.

 

[LutonSpurs]

KD has done this before. It is down to his intense dislike of ITK. I for one love ITK. I don't believe it but it's part of the culture to look forward to it and just laugh at it. POTL and Blue and Yellow was a thing of comedy genius.

 

[milo]

I think that we need to find an appropriate punishment for KD's fibs. I'm off to talk to the OMT Gods and ask them if they have any suitable avatars knocking around.

KD is not going to be happy but they have said that he should have this

 

[Kingdawson]

nooooooooo anything but that

 

[scaramanga]

Because some lad in the middle is precisely, exactly, nailed-on what we should not be doing. It is the elephant trap.


Top: LvG, Ancelotti, FdB...fantastic, give him £100m, leave him at it, let him hire/fire who he wants, give him a giant 5 year "project" contract, maybe he mentors in our next coach, name on the back of shirts, call the new stadium after him, glory glory. Brilliant.

Middle: We have to poach him from somewhere, might work/might not/ho-hum, we have to emotionally commit to him, he has to have a 3 or 4 year contract, we have to give him money to spend, is another trauma/expense/embarrassment to sack, new players he brings in after he's sacked will be Felleini'd, minimum time wasted is 2 seasons, may not get on with Levy/Baldini over time, in every pore of his body reeks of compromise and 2nd best-ness and everyone knows it - "Is this guy a glorified caretaker, or do we really believe in him?"

Bottom: Sherwood aka "worst manager in the whole world of football managers"...he's already here, you don't have to give him money to spend, Baldini and Levy can continue youth recruitment without having to listen to the coach whining, easy to sack, Levy & Baldini have already worked with him & relationships seem good, low expectations, buys time until we can get a proper "Top" choice, just might work out and be really good, he's not keeping anyone else out of the job since by definition if he's appointed our "Top" guys aren't available, maximum time wasted is 1 season.


Appointing some guy in the middle isn't "incremental" just because it's in the middle. It is, in fact, committing to mediocrity on purpose, with your eyes open. It lacks wisdom and imagination.

Sorry for skim reading your post, it clearly deserves more than that but I'm reading on my phone and my wife is still chatting in my ear as I type.

The gist I get from your post is that Sherwood would be a decent option because Levy/Baldini can ignore him/buy their own players and because he'd be cheap to sack - well that would be the case with any manager I'd have thought.

 

[milo]

nooooooooo anything but that

You'll hardly notice him

 

[diego_maradona]

You'll hardly notice him

:ross:

 

[billyiddo]

i had assumed that his empty avatar space was a homage to 'invisiblinho' anyway

 

[Cochise]

Posted elsewhere, but anyone think that Jose is on course for a bust up with Abramovich just in time to put his name in the frame for the UTD job?? Apparently Abramovich won't buy Costa this summer because he wants Cavani, Jose isn't happy.

Someone else was also citing his comments about wanting to play a second string vs Liverpool but it not being his choice as a dig at Abramovich, although I personally think it was a dig at the Premier League Chiefs who won't let a team purposefully field a weakened team.

NB: Listening to a talksport podcast with Sun writer Sean Custis saying his piece. The bloke is the true face of Manchester UTD fans, he believes that UTD are entitled to the title, that Fergie did nothing wrong, that Ed Woodward did nothing wrong and that the players are really good and it's basically David Moyes fault. Apparently the players are all very good and they only gave up because the manager knew less than they did. They only need 2-3 signings apparently to be the best (I'd say closer to 5-6).

 

[milo]

Posted elsewhere, but anyone think that Jose is on course for a bust up with Abramovich just in time to put his name in the frame for the UTD job?? Apparently Abramovich won't buy Costa this summer because he wants Cavani, Jose isn't happy.

Someone else was also citing his comments about wanting to play a second string vs Liverpool but it not being his choice as a dig at Abramovich, although I personally think it was a dig at the Premier League Chiefs who won't let a team purposefully field a weakened team.

NB: Listening to a talksport podcast with Sun writer Sean Custis saying his piece. The bloke is the true face of Manchester UTD fans, he believes that UTD are entitled to the title, that Fergie did nothing wrong, that Ed Woodward did nothing wrong and that the players are really good and it's basically David Moyes fault. Apparently the players are all very good and they only gave up because the manager knew less than they did. They only need 2-3 signings apparently to be the best (I'd say closer to 5-6).

Where's this from?

Well he obviously wanted it a year ago and I could understand if he wanted to jump before he is pushed but I doubt that he would want to ruin his relationship with the Chelsea fans or miss out on an Abramovich payout.

 

[harr1984]

I can't see him leaving Chelsea after a season. Would be hilarious though....

 

[Gutter Boy]

Because some lad in the middle is precisely, exactly, nailed-on what we should not be doing. It is the elephant trap.


Top: LvG, Ancelotti, FdB...fantastic, give him £100m, leave him at it, let him hire/fire who he wants, give him a giant 5 year "project" contract, maybe he mentors in our next coach, name on the back of shirts, call the new stadium after him, glory glory. Brilliant.

Middle: We have to poach him from somewhere, might work/might not/ho-hum, we have to emotionally commit to him, he has to have a 3 or 4 year contract, we have to give him money to spend, is another trauma/expense/embarrassment to sack, new players he brings in after he's sacked will be Felleini'd, minimum time wasted is 2 seasons, may not get on with Levy/Baldini over time, in every pore of his body reeks of compromise and 2nd best-ness and everyone knows it - "Is this guy a glorified caretaker, or do we really believe in him?"

Bottom: Sherwood aka "worst manager in the whole world of football managers"...he's already here, you don't have to give him money to spend, Baldini and Levy can continue youth recruitment without having to listen to the coach whining, easy to sack, Levy & Baldini have already worked with him & relationships seem good, low expectations, buys time until we can get a proper "Top" choice, just might work out and be really good, he's not keeping anyone else out of the job since by definition if he's appointed our "Top" guys aren't available, maximum time wasted is 1 season.


Appointing some guy in the middle isn't "incremental" just because it's in the middle. It is, in fact, committing to mediocrity on purpose, with your eyes open. It lacks wisdom and imagination.

Isn't that like saying you should vote for UKIP, because Con-Lab-Libs are all a bit meh, while someone intriging like Stephen Fry would never stand for PM.

 

[veron23]

Carlo Ancelotti overrated? Really?

I shouldn't really dignify that with a response but to say someone like that is overrated just shows a basic lack of common sense, never mind football intelligence. He won the double in his first season in England with a decent, not outstanding side and got them playing better football than they had done under Mourinho, Scolari and Grant and certainly better than under Villas-Boas/Di Matteo.

He has won the league in 3 different countries, won the Champions League twice and reached another final. He has been employed to manage 5 of the biggest teams in the world over the past 15 years. If that is overrated then I would love a bit of that for Spurs, however unlikely that maybe.

He has class, charisma and is widely respected by the footballing world, Plays football the right way, He conducts himself in the right way, never gets embroiled in controversy and is very good advert for whoever he is employed by.

Without a doubt, if we could choose anyone then he would be my undoubted number 1 choice.

if my nan managed ONLY top teams with top budgets and the best players then shed have the same CV as Ancelotti.

His football is dire. Instead of watching CV's try watching LIVE football matches