Could add more likely to be young or from ethnic minorities. But simplifying and generalising the issue might make mr gilmore sound like a racist boomer.
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Could add more likely to be young or from ethnic minorities. But simplifying and generalising the issue might make mr gilmore sound like a racist boomer.
Mikey10
John Lacy
UK beginning to fall behind in EU the vaccination stakes.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-britain-rollout-slows?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-britain-rollout-slows?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-britain-rollout-slows?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-britain-rollout-slows?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Are people still talking about this?
It's all over isn't it?
It's all over isn't it?
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
Another reason they're trying to get the younger groups on board, to push that overall double jabbed rate into the high 70%'s. Anyone 40+ who hasn't had it is a hard sell by now.
Cant remember what % they felt was required for herd immunity? Of course, even the ones who don't want the jab could quite easily have natural immunity, whether they were symptomatic or not. Total infections are way above just those reported.
glasgowspur
Nayim
Three of the six combined have a population probably not much more than london.
I mean comparing malta and the uk is bit silly.
SpurMeUp
Jimmy Cantrell
I think I just had a variety of Covid, after having my second jab about a fortnight ago. A banging headache last night, fever, soar throat, mucus, sneezing. Slept for only 4 hours but it has eased and I feel ok again.
Though they might not want to publicise it, the jabs don't stop you getting the virus it seems. Hopefully, they make it less severe.
Seems logical that we'll see another round of vaccines in about a year's time, with a more refined roostertail vaccination that should tackle the wide variety of strains.
Though they might not want to publicise it, the jabs don't stop you getting the virus it seems. Hopefully, they make it less severe.
Seems logical that we'll see another round of vaccines in about a year's time, with a more refined roostertail vaccination that should tackle the wide variety of strains.
SteveAWOL
Colin Calderwood
Have you done Lateral Flow Test at home &/or gone to a drive-in centre for a PCR swab?
If you’ve had AstraZeneca vaccine then that provides about 70% protection against symptomatic infection from Delta but 95% reduction in hospitalisations.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/veep-vaccine-effectiveness-table-16-july-2021
SpurMeUp
Jimmy Cantrell
Thanks fellas. I haven't had a test, I guess I should order one.
I think that is part of the issue with this virus, you have mild symptoms initially so you don't think twice. You might be carrying the virus with almost no symptoms so it is hard to isolate it. Sadly I think we are all likely to be exposed to multiple variants that you can catch more than once, but with jabs and prior exposure, the severity of infections will drop...and the human race will continue
Personally, I think I've had the virus more than once (but I haven't had a test this time). What is noticeable this time is the amount you are sneezing. I think that is possibly how the delta variant is more transmissible. I am surprised none of the public health info focuses on people "catching and binning" their sneezes.
I don't understand that chart data, what are the percentages re. hospitalisation? Does it mean XX% don't get hospitalised after infection?
I think that is part of the issue with this virus, you have mild symptoms initially so you don't think twice. You might be carrying the virus with almost no symptoms so it is hard to isolate it. Sadly I think we are all likely to be exposed to multiple variants that you can catch more than once, but with jabs and prior exposure, the severity of infections will drop...and the human race will continue
Personally, I think I've had the virus more than once (but I haven't had a test this time). What is noticeable this time is the amount you are sneezing. I think that is possibly how the delta variant is more transmissible. I am surprised none of the public health info focuses on people "catching and binning" their sneezes.
I don't understand that chart data, what are the percentages re. hospitalisation? Does it mean XX% don't get hospitalised after infection?
No, it means 95% of those who would have been hospitalised won't be.Thanks fellas. I haven't had a test, I guess I should order one.
I think that is part of the issue with this virus, you have mild symptoms initially so you don't think twice. You might be carrying the virus with almost no symptoms so it is hard to isolate it. Sadly I think we are all likely to be exposed to multiple variants that you can catch more than once, but with jabs and prior exposure, the severity of infections will drop...and the human race will continue
Personally, I think I've had the virus more than once (but I haven't had a test this time). What is noticeable this time is the amount you are sneezing. I think that is possibly how the delta variant is more transmissible. I am surprised none of the public health info focuses on people "catching and binning" their sneezes.
I don't understand that chart data, what are the percentages re. hospitalisation? Does it mean XX% don't get hospitalised after infection?
As it was a tiny number to start with, it's miniscule now.
SteveAWOL
Colin Calderwood
As Scara says, it’s percentage reduction relative to an unvaccinated individual.
Being a fairly healthy 43 year old my risk from COVID-19 prior to receiving first jab was already lower than that of my parents after they’d been double-jabbed.
SteveAWOL
Colin Calderwood
You can get an antibody test from pharmacies to check whether you’ve previously been infected, just make sure to get one which checks for ImmunoGlobulin to nucelocapsid rather than spike as the former is only produced by natural infection but the latter is created following vaccination too.Thanks fellas. I haven't had a test, I guess I should order one.
I think that is part of the issue with this virus, you have mild symptoms initially so you don't think twice. You might be carrying the virus with almost no symptoms so it is hard to isolate it. Sadly I think we are all likely to be exposed to multiple variants that you can catch more than once, but with jabs and prior exposure, the severity of infections will drop...and the human race will continue
Personally, I think I've had the virus more than once (but I haven't had a test this time). What is noticeable this time is the amount you are sneezing. I think that is possibly how the delta variant is more transmissible. I am surprised none of the public health info focuses on people "catching and binning" their sneezes.
I don't understand that chart data, what are the percentages re. hospitalisation? Does it mean XX% don't get hospitalised after infection?
FWIW I did the Superdrug one back in April, just before my first dose of Pfizer jab, and that came back negative.
https://onlinedoctor.superdrug.com/coronavirus-antibody-test.html
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johnola
Mauricio Taricco
Thanks for this info Steve.
yiddo37
Terry Fenwick
I had a positive lateral flow test almost a month ago as I'd fallen ill with headaches, a bad cough and extreme tiredness amongst other symptoms. Put it down to man flu originally. Sent another test off to the lab 2 days later which confirmed the virus. Isolated for 10 days as told and I have to say it's knocked me for six since. Lost my sense of smell which was very strange, even burnt an oven pizza as I can usually smell when it's ready lol. Have been back to work but still not quite right, leg muscles in particular are very tired and breathing when going upstairs is proving a lot more difficult than usual. I've had the 2 jabs (AZ) second one at the start of June. Did they help and keep me out of hospital? Who knows...
SpurMeUp
Jimmy Cantrell
Vaccines are an amazing thing. We would be in a desperate place without them.
I am still baffled at how little we know about viruses tho. How they spread, and what affects their severity (how the dose of virus affects infection, maybe multiple doses creates a greater impact which could explain the impact on front line workers), or how viruses can lead to longer-term seemingly unrelated ailments (see Awakenings where Spanish flu is thought to have led to Sleeping Sickness).
All of this data we have at the moment is pretty superficial and masks our lack of understanding of the mechanisms of viruses. We live in a global community now - a virus in China is months, weeks or days from London - so you'd think humans would be dissecting and understanding all of this a lot more.
I am still baffled at how little we know about viruses tho. How they spread, and what affects their severity (how the dose of virus affects infection, maybe multiple doses creates a greater impact which could explain the impact on front line workers), or how viruses can lead to longer-term seemingly unrelated ailments (see Awakenings where Spanish flu is thought to have led to Sleeping Sickness).
All of this data we have at the moment is pretty superficial and masks our lack of understanding of the mechanisms of viruses. We live in a global community now - a virus in China is months, weeks or days from London - so you'd think humans would be dissecting and understanding all of this a lot more.
Doesn't that only show if you've had it fairly recently?
Antibodies in some people have only lasted a couple of weeks haven't they?
Bullet
Luka Modric
Me.
SteveAWOL
Colin Calderwood
Not sure what the consensus is on waning antibody levels but this study published last month found that 98.8% of people infected last year in Vo’ tested positive for antibodies 9 months later.
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/226713/covid-19-antibodies-persist-least-nine-months/
Researchers from the University of Padua and Imperial College London tested more than 85 percent of the 3,000 residents of Vo’, Italy, in February/March 2020 for infection with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, and tested them again in May and November 2020 for antibodies against the virus.
The team found that 98.8 percent of people infected in February/March showed detectable levels of antibodies in November, and there was no difference between people who had suffered symptoms of COVID-19 and those that had been symptom-free.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-24622-7
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
I don't understand why anyone thinks this.
Of course it doesn't.
It reduces the impact on you, reduces your chance of dying and reduces you passing it on.