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Next Manager?

Daisuk said:
Could just as well mean he's going to Madrid though, but seems like something is up.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1399115577688428544
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Also said he’s got 2 years left, which means they’ve triggered an extension. Which would tie in with the stories about it testing our financial resolve once we’d ‘decided on our preferred candidate’ a couple of weeks ago.

I think this is all to be expected. And it makes me feel slightly better. It’s a serious, strategic move to get the person we think is best suited to us. And we’re willing to pay for it. Let’s see if we can drive it home.
 
I almost think Levy has to give Poch a Pardew style 8 year contract or something if he pulls it off. To sack him, pay 2 years of compensation, and then sack him again if a bad run of form hits, I don’t think Levy’s reputation could survive it. This needs to be a long term commitment with the incentives to match, if it’s going to happen at all.
 
BrainOfLevy said:
I almost think Levy has to give Poch a Pardew style 8 year contract or something if he pulls it off. To sack him, pay 2 years of compensation, and then sack him again if a bad run of form hits, I don’t think Levy’s reputation could survive it. This needs to be a long term commitment with the incentives to match, if it’s going to happen at all.
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That would be a massive mistake. Give him a reasonable contract and look to extend it in a few years if everyone wants it.
 
milo said:
That would be a massive mistake. Give him a reasonable contract and look to extend it in a few years if everyone wants it.
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Yeah, I know. I’m being sort of facetious. My main point is you can’t push the boat out here after sacking him and then paying big comp if it isn’t going to be a serious commitment upfront. We have to be putting down a marker in saying we trust him to build something.

His first contract was 5 years. I don’t see why it can’t be something similar. If we’re going to offer a 2 year deal, get Conte. If we go for Poch, I think we have to show a big commitment. None of this makes sense otherwise.
 
The more we wait, the more we are in danger of seeing Levy forced to borrow that famous line from Jesus Gil when describing his new manager...

'...it may be that he is not the right man, but when all the trains have left the station you can only take the one that is left.'

In this case, Graham Potter or Eddie Howe. :p
 
Finney Is Back said:
Having expectations set at top 4, while providing 6th/7th(?) biggest budget would be a failure in expectations.
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We supposedly have significant cash reserves following several years of massive operating profit prior to covid.

We need to use these reserves this year and sell off our deadwood, which would mean that we would have a top 4 budget.

Normally I wouldn't see levy taking that route but he is desperate, and has to make a significant commitment to secure the signing of a top manager, otherwise there is no chance of poch or conte.

Maybe he cant make that commitment, but if not potter or howe are the only possibilities for the managerial position
 
Crab.C.Nesbitt said:
We supposedly have significant cash reserves following several years of massive operating profit prior to covid.

We need to use these reserves this year and sell off our deadwood, which would mean that we would have a top 4 budget.

Normally I wouldn't see levy taking that route but he is desperate, and has to make a significant commitment to secure the signing of a top manager, otherwise there is no chance of poch or conte.

Maybe he cant make that commitment, but if not potter or howe are the only possibilities for the managerial position
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We don’t.... We had a very over budget stadium using up those cash reserves and then some. Our gross debt was £1.2 billion before we refinanced the ultra low interest £175m government bond, so we’re going to be somewhere north of £1.2b gross debt now. If we’re fortunate then the £175m government loan (that we have just paid off by taking out a further £250m loan) was mostly kept as contingency as opposed to being essential for us to remain liquid. We’ll see when the 2021 accounts are published.
 
BrainOfLevy said:
Yeah, I know. I’m being sort of facetious. My main point is you can’t push the boat out here after sacking him and then paying big comp if it isn’t going to be a serious commitment upfront. We have to be putting down a marker in saying we trust him to build something.

His first contract was 5 years. I don’t see why it can’t be something similar. If we’re going to offer a 2 year deal, get Conte. If we go for Poch, I think we have to show a big commitment. None of this makes sense otherwise.
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I think you were right originally. If we get Poch, Levy has to back him more than he would a regular appointment. It’d be hugely embarrassing if we brought him back and sacked him again within a year or two. Not unheard of in football but extremely rare in England. Levy’s stock has fallen big time, he can’t afford a misstep on that scale.

Hopefully, if Poch comes back, he’ll have a lot of power that other managers don’t get both with the players and when it comes to transfers.
 
See PSG have triggered his extension to up the compensation paid if he leaves.They must have realised that the straight swap Aurier for Poch was slightly unbalanced.

The more money involved in possibly getting Poch back, the more the move would have to be questioned if Conte is available for nothing. Is Levy gonna pay the money for Poch and make whatever concessions that he wants to come back as well? I don't think we're that desperate. We'd basically be making him unsackable. I'd still like and return to include a DOF that both parties were happy working with just for continuity.
 
Finney Is Back said:
We don’t.... We had a very over budget stadium using up those cash reserves and then some. Our gross debt was £1.2 billion before we refinanced the ultra low interest £175m government bond, so we’re going to be somewhere north of £1.2b gross debt now. If we’re fortunate then the £175m government loan (that we have just paid off by taking out a further £250m loan) was mostly kept as contingency as opposed to being essential for us to remain liquid. We’ll see when the 2021 accounts are published.
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The stadium debt is a complete red herring. The debt is in long term bonds the earliest doesn’t mature for 15 years. The biggest £300m for 30 years. Interest is all we pay for 15 years which is incredibly low at 2.6%. Meanwhile revenue will be up £150m.
 
milo said:
The stadium debt is a complete red herring. The debt is in long term bonds the earliest doesn’t mature for 15 years. The biggest £300m for 30 years. Interest is all we pay for 15 years which is incredibly low at 2.6%. Meanwhile revenue will be up £150m.
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Let’s hope interest rates don’t go up in these next 15 years then eh?
 
fernadez said:
See PSG have triggered his extension to up the compensation paid if he leaves.They must have realised that the straight swap Aurier for Poch was slightly unbalanced.

The more money involved in possibly getting Poch back, the more the move would have to be questioned if Conte is available for nothing. Is Levy gonna pay the money for Poch and make whatever concessions that he wants to come back as well? I don't think we're that desperate. We'd basically be making him unsackable. I'd still like and return to include a DOF that both parties were happy working with just for continuity.
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I suspect that Poch would still be cheaper than Rodgers.

I have concerns about Conte and Poch being alternative choices. Their style of play is very different and would require completely different signings this summer. It would also have an impact on who we are looking to shift. I would like the club to have a clear identity about how we play football and choose managers and players that fit that.
 
billyiddo said:
Our transfer budget over the last 2 seasons has been 3rd/4th - if we maintain that level of spend whilst increasing the wage budget in line with that then top 4 is where we should be aiming for.
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Barely caught us up after a total of £12m net for the 2 years before that.... Let’s wait to see what happens with spending and wage budget over the next 2 or 3 years before we have expectations of top 4.
 
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