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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

Mikey10 said:
I’m over yesterday now. Time to learn the lessons, hold on to every player in the squad that Poch wants and enter the new stadium with optimism. Fudge the press narrative. Yes, Poch has his weaknesses, as I said yesterday, but so do all of the top managers.
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Easier said than done. So maybe Toby wants more money so Poch says he can go. What happens if Christian wants £150-180K a week? And again while should he want to stay? Walker did not? We know Rose woulod go if Utd came knocking and as for Toby....
 
harr1984 said:
Of course. But I still put it to you - do you think we are going to win things by constantly buying young talented players and having no guarantees of keeping hold of your top players? For a lot of these players they will be maybe a season away from questioning whether they want to stay at this club. Anyone thinking that Kane, Eriksen et al will stay here happy to not win anything for much longer are kidding themselves. We need a big player to show we mean business. The next step is the toughest one to take, and it’s more likely we fall out of the top 4 than it is we win the league with our policy at the minute....
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It's a pointless question mate - we don't work with these constraints for a laugh, it's what the situation is and we're trying (and succeeding imo) to make the best of it. We're not sitting on a pile of money choosing not to spend it.

I think while these constraints are in place the long term strategy cannot be compromised for short term gain, when more money comes in to the club that should and will change somewhat
 
NaijaSpurs said:
Easier said than done. So maybe Toby wants more money so Poch says he can go. What happens if Christian wants £150-180K a week? And again while should he want to stay? Walker did not? We know Rose woulod go if Utd came knocking and as for Toby....
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I’d give Eriksen that money. He deserves it more than Toby. He’s also 26 so will still have resale value in 2-4 years.

As great as Toby is, and he has been tremendous for us, he’s more replaceable than Eriksen. Eriksen makes my pants sticky, we don’t have another player like him and there are few players around we could properly replace him with.
 
I can not help thinking that Poch is frustrated that he cannot build the team he really wants to.

Llorente, seriously what was the point? Last season with one or two exceptions all his goals were headers from crosses into the box. We do not cross a lot, and when we do we rarely seem to beat the first man, he really was not a suitable signing, but here we are. And what has he done for us lately? He makes the bench against against Brighton but not in the semi final so we cannot throw him him on when we need a goal. Seriously what was the point?
 
billyiddo said:
It's a pointless question mate - we don't work with these constraints for a laugh, it's what the situation is and we're trying (and succeeding imo) to make the best of it. We're not sitting on a pile of money choosing not to spend it.

I think while these constraints are in place the long term strategy cannot be compromised for short term gain, when more money comes in to the club that should and will change somewhat
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No I know and don’t get me wrong im Grateful for where we are punching above our weight. All I’m saying is if we want to take that final step we will have to make a serious buy or two, if we can’t afford to fine but I’d like to think with our new stadium and more consistent CL participation maybe we could push the boat or a little...
 
DeanoAustin said:
You’re 400% right. In fact, I think Eriksen might have a look elsewhere this year. Kane will stay, Alli’s stock has fallen slightly so I reckon he’ll stay but Eriksen has really shone this season and he’s now 26 and spent 5 years here. We’ll do well to keep hold in my opinion especially if he has a good World Cup.
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Yes Eriksen is the one i really worry about....
 
DeanoAustin said:
I’d give Eriksen that money. He deserves it more than Toby. He’s also 26 so will still have resale value in 2-4 years.
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And therein lies the rub, how about we focus on buying and keeping quality players and less on "resale value". When we sign layers like N'Jie or N'Koudou there is always someone on here saying that they are young and if they do not work out there is good resale value. Ironically according to Wikipedia we sold N'Jie at a loss, go figure
 
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Selling a big name this summer might actually help, target the investment and hopefully make some of the others step up.
 
Sell all the players sack poch and get Harry in with a wad of cash.

Jamie would be telling the world that it's progress. He won't look constipated every time he would be discussing us on the box
 
NaijaSpurs said:
And therein lies the rub, how about we focus on buying and keeping quality players and less on "resale value". When we signp layers like N'Jie or N'Koudou there is always someone on here saying that they are young and if they do not work out there is good resale value. Ironically according to Wikipedia we sold N'Jie at a loss, go figure
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As a fan I absolutely agree with you. But there is an economic reality and trebling Toby’s wages has a number of knock on effects that just aren’t viable especially given his age and replacability.

I’ve no doubt that Levy will increase wages given the extra money available. It’s then a question of if he wants to go to Liverpool levels of wages as a percentage of turnover rather than keep us at United/City levels.Based on the last numbers I saw, the danger of us going to Liverpool’s level is that our revenue is contingent on us reaching the CL whereas Liverpool always have commercial revenue to fall back on which doesn’t carry that risk.

I do believe Levy has some room for manoevure though even on the “wages to turnover” ratio. He needs to be a bit more risk averse if he wants to properly compete.
 
In a wider context I reckon poch is about 12 to 18 month ahead of the schedule he and the club probably set when he signed.
So although yesterday's loss hurt, the bigger picture is still very bright.

Since the turn of the year I've been wondering about his in game management. He always had a player that would be pulled over to relay messages, bentaleb, rose then lamela. That doesn't seem to happen now.
I've always said it's evolution, not revolution with poch. So is this the next stage, is he now looking for someone to stand up on the pitch and be a leader and make calls?
I think we have players who are crying out for decision maker on the pitch, dele, Erikson, Jan and Harry all have the ability and desire but not that little bit inside them to make unpopular calls or tell it how it is.

Poch is always quoted as being ruthless with players, well I want to see it this window.
Dembele has been sussed, crowd him out because he will not pass.

Son needs to be told he plays for the team, not the Koreans in stand.

Dele, you don't win a game when you score, stop showboating.

Lamela, need to impose yourself more going forward, take some chances.

Poch is still the right man for us but I worry about next season, the new stadium won'
feel like home straight away and our players will be run into the ground at the WC.
 
glasgowspur said:
In a wider context I reckon poch is about 12 to 18 month ahead of the schedule he and the club probably set when he signed.
So although yesterday's loss hurt, the bigger picture is still very bright.

Since the turn of the year I've been wondering about his in game management. He always had a player that would be pulled over to relay messages, bentaleb, rose then lamela. That doesn't seem to happen now.
I've always said it's evolution, not revolution with poch. So is this the next stage, is he now looking for someone to stand up on the pitch and be a leader and make calls?
I think we have players who are crying out for decision maker on the pitch, dele, Erikson, Jan and Harry all have the ability and desire but not that little bit inside them to make unpopular calls or tell it how it is.

Poch is always quoted as being ruthless with players, well I want to see it this window.
Dembele has been sussed, crowd him out because he will not pass.

Son needs to be told he plays for the team, not the Koreans in stand.

Dele, you don't win a game when you score, stop showboating.

Lamela, need to impose yourself more going forward, take some chances.

Poch is still the right man for us but I worry about next season, the new stadium won'
feel like home straight away and our players will be run into the ground at the WC.
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I actually think we will hit the ground running at the new stadium. Wouldn't be surprised if we go unbeaten their and win most of the games.

Will obviously help if we sign some top class full backs or ones with massive potential and of course get the new dembele in, such as Isco or Thiago.

There should be massive money available now to spend much more on transfers and wages.

We need to do it sensibly and gradually with each contract renewal and don't go crazy in the market but purse strings will loosen substantially.
 
Why would we go unbeaten at the new stadium? The season we did at WHL we had Walker and Rose down the wings which we don’t now, and Toby at CB which again we haven’t this season. Another reason why I’m not convinced we would have had as good a season at WHL this year and why being at Wembley isn’t the main reason....
 
harr1984 said:
Why would we go unbeaten at the new stadium? The season we did at WHL we had Walker and Rose down the wings which we don’t now, and Toby at CB which again we haven’t this season. Another reason why I’m not convinced we would have had as good a season at WHL this year and why being at Wembley isn’t the main reason....
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Missed a fit Rose big time yesterday!
 
NaijaSpurs said:
And therein lies the rub, how about we focus on buying and keeping quality players and less on "resale value". When we signp layers like N'Jie or N'Koudou there is always someone on here saying that they are young and if they do not work out there is good resale value. Ironically according to Wikipedia we sold N'Jie at a loss, go figure
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What proven quality is available for the price we paid for those two? 10-15m won't get you that
 
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