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Jimmy McCormick
I note the bloke who asked me to define the period has STFU. Says alot.
I don't spend my life waiting for you to post. Get over yourself.
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I note the bloke who asked me to define the period has STFU. Says alot.
Ive said this should happen for years now, seems the govt have finally seen the light...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...to-do-unpaid-work-in-return-for-benefits.html
THOUSANDS of jobless layabouts risk having benefits stopped in a crackdown on the workshy.
Ministers now want to make ALL able-bodied claimants do unpaid community tasks in return for their dole.
The move follows the success of a tough new regime aimed at pushing the long-term unemployed into work.
Job centre staff have power to send suspected shirkers to join supervised gangs painting schools or trimming hedgerows.
Those who refuse to put in 30 hours a week have their ?ú67.50-a-week unemployment benefit stopped. Next month the government will DOUBLE the number on the programme.
Employment Minister Chris Grayling, who set up the scheme last year, wants to extend it to capture thousands more he believes play the system.
And he has launched a secret trial in one area to see if tough sanctions can be imposed on EVERY claimant. An insider said: ÔÇ£He wants this scheme to be the norm, rather than an optional extra.
ÔÇ£They are planning to extend it rapidly from next month and have already found funding for thousands more places.
More than 18,000 jobless have already joined community projects or had their handouts docked.
But a study shows half of claimants would rather lose their cash than do unpaid work
I was made redundant seven years ago and didnt have a job for a year. I didnt pick up benefits once. Some might say im foolish as I have paid my taxes and NI etc so why couldnt I pick up my ?ú42 a week?
Not judging others but I would never claim. Unless we couldn't feed my daughter.
Don't you own property which you rent out, thus meaning you have an income therefore unable to claim... or easier not to have to claim.
Southie has a point tho right? I paid a lot of taxes and NI etc I contributed a brickload, im sure you have too - so why not claim? Youre entitled to it. Moreso than the jokers who live on these things....
Well, you would be in the same boat as the majority that claim then.
Incidently, I see nothing wrong in claiming, if your looking daily for employment, heck you could be unemployed for years for all I care, as long as your trying.
Unlike yourself Leeds, some people simply don't have the buisness nouse, wouldn't know where to begin, are not educated enough, hell I could run off many reasons.
Personally think your on your high horse on this one, I also think its a bit low to use your child as a focal point of the 'only time I'd claim'
Do you honestly think worse of people who claim, seriously not everyone is a low life scrounger who wants a life of benefits.
I don't see any problem with that at all.
One of my best mates was a bit of a troublemaker back in the day, and anyway instead of getting banged-up yet again, the Judge said he'd give him a chance to sort his life out and ordered him to go and do a load of community service. So, he ended up doing unpaid maintenance work in a Care Home for about 3mths. He learnt loads of trades and skills, went to college and qualified as an electrician off the back of it. Went on to grow his client base for most of the care homes in the SE and sold his business last year for just over £2m. And yet, had he never done that unpaid work 10 or so years ago, he'd never have got into that at all.
I don't think it should be a full weeks' work though - because that IS taking the tinkle and I do agree that you're not exactly going to find time to apply and learn new skills, if you're breaking your back doing manual labour during the day. I think it should be something like: 2 Days Unpaid Labour, 2 Days Jon Hunting and 1 Day Training/Development. That's a better balance if you ask me.
I don't think it should be a full weeks' work though - because that IS taking the tinkle and I do agree that you're not exactly going to find time to apply and learn new skills, if you're breaking your back doing manual labour during the day. I think it should be something like: 2 Days Unpaid Labour, 2 Days Jon Hunting and 1 Day Training/Development. That's a better balance if you ask me.
I think the pertinent words in my post were, 'NOT JUDGING OTHERS' you're the one on your high horse mate. I understand the rationale completely and good luck to anyone who claims, especially if they've 'paid in' even though that term is funny as your NI doesn't go into a little 'rainy day' pot for your pension and life's contingencies!! Any JSA is paid out of the general DWP find for the year.
I don't spend my life waiting for you to post. Get over yourself.
Really!!!
I ain't going to argue brick with you, its to hot outside to be a keyboard warrior for the day. O
Absolutely this.
If you can't find work in a year, sorry (actually I'm not), but you're a waste of fudging air.
it depends on what you do for a living, and your age. Making a comment like that is easy until it happens to you.
I was out of work for 13 months, and found my biggest problem was being overqualified for the jobs that I would accept, rather than be out of work, and was discriminated against because of my age for the ones that I aspired to.
I was desperate to work, and considered actually driving a van rather than sitting around doing nothing, I got laughed at when I sent my CV in, as I did when I applied for a job at Deathrow a few years ago when I was out of work for 6 months.