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Work for your dole money...
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Sheikh Ma Nuggets
Tony Parks
I don't see any problem with that at all.
One of my best mates was a bit of a troublemaker back in the day, and anyway instead of getting banged-up yet again, the Judge said he'd give him a chance to sort his life out and ordered him to go and do a load of community service. So, he ended up doing unpaid maintenance work in a Care Home for about 3mths. He learnt loads of trades and skills, went to college and qualified as an electrician off the back of it. Went on to grow his client base for most of the care homes in the SE and sold his business last year for just over ?ú2m. And yet, had he never done that unpaid work 10 or so years ago, he'd never have got into that at all.
I don't think it should be a full weeks' work though - because that IS taking the tinkle and I do agree that you're not exactly going to find time to apply and learn new skills, if you're breaking your back doing manual labour during the day. I think it should be something like: 2 Days Unpaid Labour, 2 Days Jon Hunting and 1 Day Training/Development. That's a better balance if you ask me.
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Don't you own property which you rent out, thus meaning you have an income therefore unable to claim... or easier not to have to claim.
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Well, you would be in the same boat as the majority that claim then.
Incidently, I see nothing wrong in claiming, if your looking daily for employment, heck you could be unemployed for years for all I care, as long as your trying.
Unlike yourself Leeds, some people simply don't have the buisness nouse, wouldn't know where to begin, are not educated enough, hell I could run off many reasons.
Personally think your on your high horse on this one, I also think its a bit low to use your child as a focal point of the 'only time I'd claim'
Do you honestly think worse of people who claim, seriously not everyone is a low life scrounger who wants a life of benefits.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Dont forget this was seven years ago so I didnt have much savings etc as I had only worked for a couple of years before. The rental payments cover the mortgage payment and I am left with a bit but definitely not enough to cover a months worth of living - evenn the basics. Anyways I pay a brickload of taxes and other payments now so I think I would be entitled to the benefits. I pay in the pot to cover off things like this and redundancies.
Leeds Spur
Banned
Absolutely understand the PoV but my pride would dictate that I wouldn't claim unless I absolutely needed to. I don't claim child benefit because I feel it's a joke that a higher rate tax payer gets it at all!! When the government tried to means test it The Mail and middle class ****s all over the country went mental!! Why the fudge would you get paid to have a kid? Especially when you're earning £44k+ a year? This I what's wrong with the country, to many people want a hand out and not just the truly needy. Winter fuel allowance for pensioners is another one, costs the country £3 billion when millions of pensioners are well off. fudging crazy
Leeds Spur
Banned
I think the pertinent words in my post were, 'NOT JUDGING OTHERS' you're the one on your high horse mate. I understand the rationale completely and good luck to anyone who claims, especially if they've 'paid in' even though that term is funny as your NI doesn't go into a little 'rainy day' pot for your pension and life's contingencies!! Any JSA is paid out of the general DWP find for the year.
Leeds Spur
Banned
Yep agreed. And if you don't turn up for interview, no benefit. You act like a **** at interview? No benefit, that's another cheat tossers use. Play the game
southstand1882
Mitchell Thomas
Unemployment thrived under Labour:
http://www.google.com/publicdata/ex...l=en&dl=en&ind=false&q=uk+unemployment+charts
FACT
We need innovative solutions to shake things up.
Labour does NOT work
http://www.google.com/publicdata/ex...l=en&dl=en&ind=false&q=uk+unemployment+charts
FACT
We need innovative solutions to shake things up.
Labour does NOT work
WookieD
Didier Zokora
That's far too measured a view. You'll end up sending our children back to the sweat shops if you carry on like that. Orphans will be used as slippers by the rich and and babies will be knitted into canoes.
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Really!!!
I ain't going to argue brick with you, its to hot outside to be a keyboard warrior for the day. O
Leeds Spur
Banned
I think we both know otherwise don't we sunshine?
Leeds Spur
Banned
Really!!!
I ain't going to argue brick with you, its to hot outside to be a keyboard warrior for the day. O
Lol. Sat here at in the sunshine in Tenerife with my first Cafe con Leche of the day. Bovvered!!
Richie
Naybet
I think 30 hours is a bit too much for those genuinely trying to find work. It should be two full days, so 16 hours work, leaving five full days to search for a job and take a class or something.
In fact even 3 days work would be acceptable IMO, 24 hours work/week. Get people in the habit of getting up, going to work.
You shouldn't be on JOBSEEKERS allowance if you aren't actively looking (and thus are able) to work, therefore nobody can claim they aren't able to do 2 days work.
In fact even 3 days work would be acceptable IMO, 24 hours work/week. Get people in the habit of getting up, going to work.
You shouldn't be on JOBSEEKERS allowance if you aren't actively looking (and thus are able) to work, therefore nobody can claim they aren't able to do 2 days work.
I agree with the work for your dole money, I have been unemployed for the last 2 years and am struggling to find a job, however I volunteer at my community library which would shut down if we didnt. I would say I wouldnt be much good at doing the so called painting or hedge trimming wot the gov want you to do. It would be better for them to get you experience in a field that you would be able to work long term in.
I am going crazy not having a job so I spend as much time volunteering as I can as not only does it give me a purpose to get up in a morning it is also helping the community by keeping our local library open it also gives me an up to date CV and reference and shows that I am willing to work. I say good for the government for trying to do something as there is a lot of people out there that have claimed dole all their life without paying anything in.
I am going crazy not having a job so I spend as much time volunteering as I can as not only does it give me a purpose to get up in a morning it is also helping the community by keeping our local library open it also gives me an up to date CV and reference and shows that I am willing to work. I say good for the government for trying to do something as there is a lot of people out there that have claimed dole all their life without paying anything in.
mick cooper
Neil Sullivan
it depends on what you do for a living, and your age. Making a comment like that is easy until it happens to you.
I was out of work for 13 months, and found my biggest problem was being overqualified for the jobs that I would accept, rather than be out of work, and was discriminated against because of my age for the ones that I aspired to.
I was desperate to work, and considered actually driving a van rather than sitting around doing nothing, I got laughed at when I sent my CV in, as I did when I applied for a job at Deathrow a few years ago when I was out of work for 6 months.
Sheikh Ma Nuggets
Tony Parks
Totally agree =D>
Personally, I'm a very highly qualified individual and I have getting on for 15yrs of commercial experience behind me. However, I'm just as vulnerable to an economic downturn as anyone else. Indeed, I used to do a lot of specialist M&A work - yet had to upskill and diversify into other areas post 2008. Had I not done so, then it's quite likely that I'd have been unemployed with an employment history in an area which was suffering a serious downturn, ie: not a very strong position to be in. Yes I could turn my hand to anything financial as a stop gap, but it's hardly anything you could guarantee on.
I do love you guys! I'm 28 and work for a bookies on an old scheme contract. Don't have to work Sundays etc red ringed is how I'm labelled in the company like a few of us. I pay ?ú550-600 tax per month. Have done for 7 years now. Quick maths tells me that's approx ?ú50k I've paid in tax. My Missus chose not to go back to work so I applied for everything I fudging could. I don't feel bad at all.
Some of you will know I'm a little hot tempered when it comes to certain subjects, notably immigration, and the scum I've seen in tens of different bookies over the years claiming benefits all day long makes me not give a brick about claiming.
Now claiming child tax and housing benefit as well as child benefit totalling ?ú300 per month.
I respect your view Leeds but I'm guessing you've paid more than me in tax over the years why THE fudge should we feel bad to get a bit back.
Must admit at first my pride said no but when I worked out what I'd paid I wasn't so proud!!
Some of you will know I'm a little hot tempered when it comes to certain subjects, notably immigration, and the scum I've seen in tens of different bookies over the years claiming benefits all day long makes me not give a brick about claiming.
Now claiming child tax and housing benefit as well as child benefit totalling ?ú300 per month.
I respect your view Leeds but I'm guessing you've paid more than me in tax over the years why THE fudge should we feel bad to get a bit back.
Must admit at first my pride said no but when I worked out what I'd paid I wasn't so proud!!
Leeds Spur
Banned
As I said mate, good luck to you and I do understand your stance!! But I have strong views on government spending, ( which I espouse here) and so I feel a hypocrite for claiming it, that's all. I paid £37k tax and NI last year, the wife paid over £200k between her personal income and her small business, which also employs 8 people. We do our bit. As ive said before, blokes like you are what makes the country work, I would never criticise you for getting what you can. What I would say is it's your wife's choice not to work, why should other tax layers help fund your lifestyle choice? I'm not looking to have a go, just pointing out that there are others more deserving of state support like pensioners and the truly disabled IMO. Again, not having a go, just being honest with my feelings. Just so everybody knows. The government spends over £20,000 for every tax payer in the country. If you pay less tax than that, (all taxes remember) you're not actually a net contributor. Again, not seeking to be provocative but it shows that the wealthy keep this country running and pay their way, which they should!!!! I don't feel middle class workers like me and my wife should b vilified, which is how it feels in modern Britain. If you earn a few bob and want to get ahead you're the enemy.
southstand1882
Mitchell Thomas
I think my comments need to be taken into CONTEXT
If you are claiming benefits regularly, and continue to do so for a long period of time, then there can be no argument
If the rules say you need to get out and do some work, then you do it
If you don't like it, then DONT claim benefits
This rule is to catch lazy bums, not highly intelligent and highly experienced workers like Mick and Sheikh
If you are claiming benefits regularly, and continue to do so for a long period of time, then there can be no argument
If the rules say you need to get out and do some work, then you do it
If you don't like it, then DONT claim benefits
This rule is to catch lazy bums, not highly intelligent and highly experienced workers like Mick and Sheikh