*** OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR v EVERTON ***

[Bedfordspurs]

That last goal was Dier at fault again, Think we need to get another top class CB in the summer and have Dier cover Dembele and Wanyama.

Good win non the less!

Dier was great though for the whole game apart from that

Verts was the best player on the pitch so do we tear into him for falling over for Lukakus goal or do we enjoy all the great stuff he did

 

[Bedfordspurs]

i'm sure he'd have taken a single goal defeat if offered it

They came with 3 holding midfielders and no support for their lone striker

Really naive IMO if you want anything from the game

 

[paxtonwolf]

It was Dier's man. Dier just let him run off and score. Meanwhile Wanyama didn't defend at all, he just watched like I did.

Winks is VERY capable of seeing out a game. In fact he won us the game with his deft freekick and bravery of NOT just going to the corner to waste time.

Dembele can't last more than 65 mins, we see it every week

As he stepped up. I said dont be banging a ball into the box, eat the time up.

When we scored the missus looked over and said. 'You were saying???'

And that's why I sat here, and he is out there....

 

[Baleforce]

They came with 3 holding midfielders and no support for their lone striker

Really naive IMO if you want anything from the game

they probably expected to lose by 2 or 3

they should have lost by 5 or 6

they've come out up imo

 

[paxtonwolf]

They came with 3 holding midfielders and no support for their lone striker

Really naive IMO if you want anything from the game

Yep, they came for a point IMO.

 

[DubaiSpur]

It was Dier's man. Dier just let him run off and score. Meanwhile Wanyama didn't defend at all, he just watched like I did.

Winks is VERY capable of seeing out a game. In fact he won us the game with his deft freekick and bravery of NOT just going to the corner to waste time.

Dembele can't last more than 65 mins, we see it every week

I'll have to watch it again, then. I felt it wasn't dangerous until Aldeweireld jumped for it and completely missed - if the man covering on the near side doesn't get his header, then it always gets exponentially harder to defend, even if you do stick to your man (toe on the ball can send it anywhere, etcetera).

I don't actually think Winks is capable of offering us control of the game the same way Dembele does just yet. No doubting he's an intelligent player (I agree that his freekick was magnificently smart), but it seems like there's just a lengthened reaction time in 50:50s and a slightly less coherent central midfield when he gets put on in Dembele's place. Might not be down to him at all (might be down to the team not being as used to playing with Winks next to Wanyama as it is to the Dembele-Wanyama pivot), but it's something to look out for and manage nonetheless - *especially* when, as you say, Dembele can't really last the full game most weekends.

 

[the dza]

I only heard the game on the radio. We sounded comfortable for 80-odd minutes, then got a bit sloppy. 3-2 flattered Everton, right? A solid 3 points.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I only heard the game on the radio. We sounded comfortable for 80-odd minutes, then got a bit sloppy. 3-2 flattered Everton, right? A solid 3 points.

Yep

They scored with their only real efforts despite what the stats may say

 

[AjaxDeSuperYids]

That last goal was Dier at fault again, Think we need to get another top class CB in the summer and have Dier cover Dembele and Wanyama.

Good win non the less!

Good luck finding one.

Think we're better of working with and improving dier.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Gonna be a good game this one. 3-2 Spurs.

I thankyou

 

[metalgear]

Yes, expect him to come on probably for Barry - would open up the midfield for us a lot more

koeman made a mistake and did us a big favour by not starting lookman.
now, can we trade him for n'jie ?

 

[mudshark]

That ending, only Spurs. Scored the third and switched off thinking the game was over.

 

[metalgear]

That is OK when defending, but I'm talking about when Spurs have the ball.
For instance when someone (Wanyama?) hit the post Davies was in the centre circle rather than out wide.

one swallow, but sounds just right if i recall we had almost everyone campped in front of their penalty box when that happened.
i like it that players fall back into the center if anything to be conservative and anticipate that cruel counter from defence.

 

[metalgear]

There's no reason to take him off is there? We've got a maximum of 3 non league games left this season.

totally agree. but there he went!

 

[metalgear]

sissoko is much better at matching eriksen when it comes to hitting crosses into the first man

lol. got me there. like for like i suppose, but sissoko looks meaner and that was enough for us to hang on for the win !

 

[metalgear]

Reality check in what sense?

that we were gifted the 3 points instead of earning it ? lookman would have been a real threat with the extremely high line we play/.

 

[SteveAWOL]

I'll have to watch it again, then. I felt it wasn't dangerous until Aldeweireld jumped for it and completely missed - if the man covering on the near side doesn't get his header, then it always gets exponentially harder to defend, even if you do stick to your man (toe on the ball can send it anywhere, etcetera).

I don't actually think Winks is capable of offering us control of the game the same way Dembele does just yet. No doubting he's an intelligent player (I agree that his freekick was magnificently smart), but it seems like there's just a lengthened reaction time in 50:50s and a slightly less coherent central midfield when he gets put on in Dembele's place. Might not be down to him at all (might be down to the team not being as used to playing with Winks next to Wanyama as it is to the Dembele-Wanyama pivot), but it's something to look out for and manage nonetheless - *especially* when, as you say, Dembele can't really last the full game most weekends.

Does look like Dier was fully expecting Alderweireld to get his head on it, like you say...

https://twitter.com/x/status/838409691592069120

 

[Bullet]

one swallow, but sounds just right if i recall we had almost everyone campped in front of their penalty box when that happened.
i like it that players fall back into the center if anything to be conservative and anticipate that cruel counter from defence.

That's my point really - if we have everyone in place, camped around their box, then they will have 10 men behind the ball and we need to use the full width of the pitch.
If the left wing back is playing like a centre back, someone else like Alli has to move to left wing, taking his threat away from the box.
Davies can cross, but he naturally inches infield until there is nobody wide and we make WHL 10 yards narrower than it already is.

 

[Bullet]

Does look like Dier was fully expecting Alderweireld to get his head on it, like you say...

https://twitter.com/x/status/838409691592069120

Dier just lets his man run off him, and Wanyama takes out his pipe. Toby tried to head it but couldn't grow another 3 inches, as much as he tried.

 

[DubaiSpur]

Does look like Dier was fully expecting Alderweireld to get his head on it, like you say...

https://twitter.com/x/status/838409691592069120

Yeah, he sort of makes a half-jump for it when he sees it going over Toby's head, but it's too late by then. Seems like it caught him by surprise.

Edit: managed to print-screen this webm of the goal - might give @Bullet 's point some merit, because Dier gets a bit too close to Alderweireld considering that he's gambled on Toby clearing that. The decision tree of defending in those situations (from my experiences as a goalie shouting at my defenders, anyway ) goes 'is it going to be cleared? If so, stick to your man. If not, can you get to the ball? If so, commit 100% to clearing it yourself. If not, *stick to your man*.'




Dier kind of goes half-way towards Toby and away from Valencia, so he's caught in no-man's land.