DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Particularly one Massimiliano Allegri of Juve, who pulled his team back to defend a lead at 2-0 and ended up with them drawing 2-2.
Wasn't too long ago, as I recall.
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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked
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Particularly one Massimiliano Allegri of Juve, who pulled his team back to defend a lead at 2-0 and ended up with them drawing 2-2.
Wasn't too long ago, as I recall.
Mr_B
Niko Kranjcar
how many total CL games has each manager been in charge of, Poch was outfoxed tonight, experience was the deciding factor.
Legohamster
Cecil Poynton
Not using Subs/reacting to another managers changes is not a new fault with mopo.
hopefully he will learn, the non - use of subs is just odd - no matter what his thinking.
hopefully he will learn, the non - use of subs is just odd - no matter what his thinking.
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
Genuinely gutted.
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
It’s on cup games where it seems to have an impact more (shock, horror). The opposition are getting outplayed so have to make a change but we don’t seem to make a change to match...
But in the league the subs do seem to work (pool away and palace away are two recent examples where subs changed the game)
I just feel that Poch hasn’t quite got that cup football is all about that one game
DeleHarry
Jose Dominguez
Funny old game isn't it. Allegri is getting praise and rightly so for his subs and change of tactics but what many seem to ignore is how he got it wrong in the first place with his selection which led to us completely dominating them in the first half and going a goal ahead.
Fine lines
Fine lines
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
Excellent point. Our tempo had dropped big time before the equaliser. We looked like we didn’t know whether to keep them under the cosh or shut up shop.To be fair to him, if he’d changed things just coz they made subs and we then lost, he’d be absolutely savaged.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
feels like such a waste to go out so early, if we'd just snuck through it could have opened up a bit, obviously City, Bayern, Barca and Madrid are through but I'd have fancied us over two legs against any of the others
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
Agreed. That’s the sickner. We’ve gone out to a team who we are better than. If we got beaten by City or Barca, I could accept it a lot more. We’ve wasted an opportunity this season.
I do wonder if Poch’s insistence on being ‘brave’ every minute of every game (ie a high line and passing out from the back) increases the risk of games like last night.
The goals came largely because we were pushing high up the pitch, but without actually putting much pressure on the ball (whether because we were tired or for some other reason, I don’t know). Their second goal was SO easy for them, it was ridiculous.
Does Poch need to add a bit more pragmatism to his game, given that we don’t have the money to create the perfect team (ala Barca, Emirates Marketing Project etc)? Will he? Judging by his book, it would seem not - his criticism of the players is always about not sticking 100% to the philosophy in every minute of every game.
Just feels like a little pragmatism could be what we need to build on Poch’s brilliant foundations, and take us to the next level.
The goals came largely because we were pushing high up the pitch, but without actually putting much pressure on the ball (whether because we were tired or for some other reason, I don’t know). Their second goal was SO easy for them, it was ridiculous.
Does Poch need to add a bit more pragmatism to his game, given that we don’t have the money to create the perfect team (ala Barca, Emirates Marketing Project etc)? Will he? Judging by his book, it would seem not - his criticism of the players is always about not sticking 100% to the philosophy in every minute of every game.
Just feels like a little pragmatism could be what we need to build on Poch’s brilliant foundations, and take us to the next level.
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
That pragmatism won Chelsea the league last season
Legohamster
Cecil Poynton
The highline has killed us a few times - I wish we wouldnt use it all the time.
You cant say he didnt have time mate. Its not about reacting as soon as we let a goal in or soon as Juve made their subs, its about game management. We were 1-0 up and knowing that they need two goals to score. For the second half we should have already made sure we were much tighter, solid and more defensive minded and be ready to make more solid midfield subs around the hour mark knowing that Juve were going to have to make changes of some sort as they were chasing the game. But no, predictably Poch doesnt change anything until after 70 minutes. He really needs to have a good think about how and when he uses his subs, this is definitely a weak area for him....
Baleforce
Ron Henry
did you read my post?
Yes? You say he didnt have time to react to their subs which is irrelvant - he should be proactive not reactive. And you talk about making subs due to tiredness - Im talking about game management....
glasgowspur
Nayim
I think we need some perspective, we've played real, Dortmund, juve, twice each this season and lost one game, narrowly at that.
SpurMeUp
Jimmy Cantrell
We need to be able to switch into a compact defensive unit yes. In the PL we rarely need it. In the CL 2 goals up, with them attacking hard and us tiring, we have to ready to switch to defend deeper and got them on the break.
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Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
We have done that in the past... switched from 2 to 3 centre backs to change style
But you need Toby to make that work or a similar player