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The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

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Thought he communicated terribly when with us.

As I said in a thread elsewhere a few days ago, he can’t have been communicating effectively with the players if they lost 22 PL games, these losses often involving a goal conceded within the first 10 minutes, shortly after he was apparently delivering his words with ‘maximum effect.’

In press conferences, he was often snippy and unnecessarily aggressive. He spent post-match interviews staring at the floor.

Imo he also gaslit the press and the fans, moving from the position of ‘I would never sacrifice a game’ when we were playing City as Arsenal went for the title, to informing us that he had chucked in the PL this season in January (interestingly, he only chose to communicate that to everyone post the EL win - for me, he was attempting to rewrite history at that point and looking to excuse his own PL failings).

And there were also the unnecessary rows with fans, and the cupping of his ear to the away fans at Chelsea (and then very obviously being caught out when asked about it in the post-match interview, ridiculously saying he was encouraging them to make some noise)…

For me, the myth of him being an excellent communicator is right up there with the myth of Angeball. Both are as real as unicorns.
I think I watched every press conference he conducted as Spurs manager. You're talking absolute codswallop if you genuinely think he's a terrible communicator.
 
Can we have a poll decide whether a poll is the best solution? Whilst we're at it can I have a Conte thread where I can wax lyrical over his remarkable achievements in the game and subsequent meltdowns?

Maybe I'm misreading it because I'm thoroughly hungover but the thread seems a bit tetchy. I blame Ange for having the audacity to win a trophy with us, definitely makes things a bit wierd for those who are usually used to sneering at success.

It is a free site so if you want to create a thread, go ahead mate. If I can create one, anyone can.
 
I'm sure the definition of a good communicator is different for everyone.

My problem with Ange was that he was a good communicator to the masses including the young players, mostly in their twenties, but fell way short of being convincing to those of us that looked through the bigger picture lens. Those numbers were growing week by week.

Ange was actually very clever with words. He was well rehearsed and knew how to evade the tough questions. In fact, when you looked closely he never actually answered the toughest questions. Like all great politicians do, he just found an adjacent topic and answered a question on that instead. He would preach crazy nonsense like Mr Hindsight and pretend he was straight talking. He was anything but.

At times I felt like shaking the guy and making him answer the questions asked. He could get as spiky as he wanted with me but it wouldn't have made one iota of difference. I would have held him accountable to answer the bloody question. It's Ok being aggressive when you know the other guys aren't allowed to be aggressive back. He knew all those journo's had to toe the line and he used that to his advantage.

On his 2 year journey with Spurs, Ange lost any authentic public persona with so many of us.
 
I'm sure the definition of a good communicator is different for everyone.

My problem with Ange was that he was a good communicator to the masses including the young players, mostly in their twenties, but fell way short of being convincing to those of us that looked through the bigger picture lens. Those numbers were growing week by week.

Ange was actually very clever with words. He was well rehearsed and knew how to evade the tough questions. In fact, when you looked closely he never actually answered the toughest questions. Like all great politicians do, he just found an adjacent topic and answered a question on that instead. He would preach crazy nonsense like Mr Hindsight and pretend he was straight talking. He was anything but.

At times I felt like shaking the guy and making him answer the questions asked. He could get as spiky as he wanted with me but it wouldn't have made one iota of difference. I would have held him accountable to answer the bloody question. It's Ok being aggressive when you know the other guys aren't allowed to be aggressive back. He knew all those journo's had to toe the line and he used that to his advantage.

On his 2 year journey with Spurs, Ange lost any authentic public persona with so many of us.
Good grief you talk some bollox.
 
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