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Tim Sherwood…gone \o/

Do you want Tim Sherwood to stay as manager?


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Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Errr, in his first game in charge, Timbo managed to get us knocked out of a cup by one of those two!

Plus AVB didn't get us knocked out of the Europa or the FA Cups either…look, if you insist on turning this into an AVB v Timbo thing, that's yours to enjoy. I think it was clear that for a variety of reasons, the AVB appt was at an end. But please, enough trying to convince people that Sherwood has been a 'great success'...

A game he had one day to prepare for and a Chiriches and Capoue in central defence pairing against an Allardyce aerial bombardment
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

"I sat in the stands because I didn't think that I could do anything as Liverpool were always going to be technically superior to us..."

...this after HE HIMSELF blasting the players for not showing "guts, heart, passion etc"

Both cowardly AND hypocritical. Has any of our previous managers come out with that kind of **** AND gotten away with it (relatively)???

This may be the worst thing I have heard from one of our managers tbh. I couldn't believe what I was hearing in the press conference.

Especially considering he's more of a motivator than a tactician. Don't sit up there 'learning', get down there and do what you do, shout. At least better than sitting up there like a gormless mug.

His other line about not watching the previous Liverpool match before was also pretty disgusting tbh.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Arsenal celebrate the work of 'Agent Tim' last night:

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The work of agent Tim? The league table since Sherwood took charge has us ahead of Arsenal....
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

I'm sorry Chancer, I admire your brave defence of the guy, but let's face facts, he is a ****ing tosser.

Correct. He's an obnoxious, egotistical, gobby kunt. I agree 100%, no kidding.

Fortunately, we're not appointing the chairman of the Jane Austen Historical Society here. We're appointing a frigging football coach.

Sherwood speaks FootballSpeak like he invented the language. And you know a head coach's most important role? Speaking to dipsh1t footballers all day. That's it, No. 1 most important thing he does.

And footballers - the dumbest lifeform in existence - LOVE FootballSpeak. It is THEIR language. You might have heard the David Brent motivational speech from your dozy swing manager 100 times and laugh at it, but footballers haven't. They respond to this guts and passion nonsense, even if to the refined sensibilities of the ladies on this board it sounds ridiculous. Well, us lot aren't the target audience.

I've heard for years on this board "We need a kunt like Roy Keane in the middle", "We need a kunt like Jose in charge", "We're so weak", "Bunch of losers"....

...and yet along comes a proper kunt like Sherwood and, what, we want nice guys like BMJ, Ramos and Santini back? Or that autistic idiot AVB mumbling into his chips about fukking DM's all over the place with the players confused about WTF he's on about?

Sherwood is a kunt. Yes. Now please show me the problem.


Tim hasn't exactly helped in hiding/protecting those deficiences though has he? Look at Chelsea yesterday, perfect game plan, would Tim ever do that? He'd more than likely go with the current ****witted lineup because it worked at home to Fulham.


Sherwood played 1 up front and a DM - Sandro - when we went to Stamford Bridge. But still, he'd never do that, so there must be some mistake.

He said about that selection: 'We had to go away at the Bridge and you can’t play with two up front there, you’ll get murdered...I couldn’t play with two strikers and Adebayor was the one."

Probably some mistake with the reporter's dictaphone. Probably a misquote.

The BBC report on the game says says: "There was little in the game until Jan Vertonghen's error let Samuel Eto'o in to fire the Blues ahead." That was on the hour. In fact, my memory was we were better than them, but whatever.

Still, Sherwood would never do anything like that.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Our Premier League performances after UEFA Europa League matches...

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...neither AVB or TS have records to write home about, but Sherwood's is slightly the better of the two.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

"I sat in the stands because I didn't think that I could do anything as Liverpool were always going to be technically superior to us..."

...this after HE HIMSELF blasting the players for not showing "guts, heart, passion etc"

Both cowardly AND hypocritical. Has any of our previous managers come out with that kind of **** AND gotten away with it (relatively)???

Agreed. This is shocking. "I didn't think I could do anything as Liverpool were always going to be technically superior to us" seemed to be the approach of the players on that day too.

In an interview at the same time he also said that if Moruinho sits in the stand everyone thinks it's fine and that the Leicster manager (I think) had been sitting in the stands all season and that was fine as they had been succeeding. I think that's a fair point, but it all points towards how inexperienced Sherwood really is at this level. If he really thinks there's an advantage to him sitting in the stands, then fine, sit there, stand by that. But sitting there one game then being on the touchline the next, is there a plan behind this? Or is he just trying out different things?

Same with the well argued Chelsea point chancer brings up. Yes, in that game we were good and I think Sherwood correctly identified the need to play a lone striker and made the tough-ish decision of dropping Soldado. But how come he couldn't identify this against Arsenal away? Or how come we looked so utterly inept against Liverpool away. Again it seems to me that his lack of experience is shining through quite clearly. Yes he gets some things right, he's not incompetent and obviously knows a lot about football, but he just doesn't seem anywhere near ready for a job like this. To me at least.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

I think the way he set us up against Chelsea, with two right backs, was excellent and working well until Super Jan's Stevie Gerrard moment.

Talking of which, do you think Chelsea work on forcing these sorts of errors from the opposition? Voodoo? Vulcan mind melds? Bribes? Putting Vaseline on the studs?
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

I think the way he set us up against Chelsea, with two right backs, was excellent and working well until Super Jan's Stevie Gerrard moment.

Talking of which, do you think Chelsea work on forcing these sorts of errors from the opposition? Voodoo? Vulcan mind melds? Bribes? Putting Vaseline on the studs?

Work on forcing such errors, but (imo) more importantly work on always being prepared to punish opponents for such errors.

Let teams that want and try to play it out from the back to that, expect mistakes to be made at some point. It will happen, keep running, keep working, keep defending as a unit until it happens so that if it happens it can be for the win.

Mourinho seems to be one of the best around at getting his players to perform consistently without making mistakes and being mentally strong.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Have to admit - I wouldn't mind seeing how TS does if he was given the summer and a whole season in charge; the only thing is if it's a train wreck there is no time machine. Hindsight is 20/20.

He's getting better in front of the media, not so gung ho this is all new to him and he is improving. The team is a little more settled, we've looked like we are slowly getting tighter at the back, he's starting to get the best out of Eriksen he's giving our kids a chance, which we have to admit we've always been banging on about how great our youth teams have been the last few years - I really don't know stick or twist.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/t...ies_but_carroll_could_be_the_answer_1_3577910


Sherwood: Spurs miss Modric’s qualities, but Carroll could be the answer

Tottenham head coach Tim Sherwood
By Ben Pearce, Tottenham correspondent
Tuesday, April 29, 2014
11:59 AM



Tim Sherwood believes Tottenham have failed to replace Luka Modric, the pass master who “assists the assister”, but he feels Tom Carroll could be the solution.


Tom Carroll
Spurs’ best side in recent memory featured Gareth Bale, Luka Modric and Rafael van der Vaart, who all played their parts as Harry Redknapp’s side reached the Champions League quarter-finals in 2011.

And, while much has been made of Bale’s absence this season, Sherwood thinks that Modric’s talents were similarly vital.

As a disappointing season comes to an end, Spurs’ head coach feels the Croatian’s creative qualities are missing from the midfield.

However, he believes that 21-year-old Carroll, who is nearing the end of his season-long loan with QPR, could fill that void at White Hart Lane – and he admits he tried to recall the England Under-21 international in the January transfer window.


Nabil Bentaleb has been an unused substitute in the last four games
“I could go on for ever about this, it’s just about having a blend in different areas of the field and different types of players in different areas of the field, and I just think the squad misses that a little bit,” said Sherwood.

“Sometimes you can turn around and look to make a change, and it’s not always a like-for-like change that you want to make.

“Sometimes you want to bring someone on to make a difference, a different type, and I just think the blend’s not fantastic. But that takes time to work with and it’s also in the recruitment process of the club.

“Sandro and [Etienne] Capoue are similar, in statue and in the way they break up the game. I think Paulinho’s a little bit different, he likes to break forward into the box.

“But we miss that player - I’m not saying [Mousa] Dembele can’t do it because he can pick it up and he can dribble – but we miss someone who moves that ball and passes it between the lines very quickly, and he assists the assister.

“Gareth Bale needed that ball very quickly and I think Luka Modric got it to him very quickly. I think Tom Carroll was that player - he can do that, absolutely. I tried to bring Tom back [in January], it just wasn’t possible.”

So was that the reason for Nabil Bentaleb’s rapid promotion at Spurs? Was Sherwood hoping that he could provide the necessary verve and incision in the midfield?

“No, he’s a different type of player,” said the head coach. “I think he’s got a bit of everything, Nabil. I think he can get up and back, and he can also score.

“We haven’t seen that because he’s not had that freedom to get forward in the games he’s played.”

Bentaleb featured in 19 of Sherwood’s first 22 games in charge at Tottenham, including nine successive starts.

However, the 19-year-old has not appeared since the 4-0 defeat at Liverpool on March 30 and has been an unused substitute for the last four games.

“Really I’ve protected him by taking him out of the spotlight,” said Sherwood. “We’ve been talking about our homegrown players, and I took him out of it.

“He’s been unlucky not to be playing, but I’m trying to protect him – and I think Manchester United did the same with [Adnan] Januzaj. He’s not featured in the last month or so.

“Sometimes a young boy can’t go in and stay in forever. It’s an art of when to put them in and when to bring them back, but he [Bentaleb] isn’t shying away, and he wants to play more than anyone.

“He has his head in his hands when I name the team and he isn’t in it, but unfortunately I’m doing it for his own benefit. You’ve got to be cruel to be kind in the long run.”

Asked if he feels the Spurs fans weren’t appreciating Bentaleb, Sherwood replied: “It’s a bit of that, and a bit of the fact that I think he needs a rest and someone else needed to come in there and do the job.”

Follow me on Twitter @BenPearceSpurs

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Actually talks a lot of sense here
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Excellent interview from Sherwood that!

Obviously he knows Tom Carroll a lot better than me so I can't judge his potential as well as Sherwood can, but everything else in that was a great read.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

We have some very good midfielders, but are they varied enough? As Sherwood said they are kinda samey. But you can see logic in why they were bought. The way AVB set up. We massively missed Sandro in the Dembro axis which served us so well. Shipping out Parker meant Capoue was a good backup should Sandro get injured.

We got rid of huddlestone. Got in Paulinho. Not a like for like but in keeping with the style AVB likes to employ.

But absolutely, we miss that passer in midfield.

What's the perfect blend though?

How many do we need?

Sandro - destroyer
Capoue - destroyer
Dembele - dribbler
Paulinho - breaks into box well
Bentaleb - Passer (short)
Carroll - Passer (short)
Livermore - destroyer

Lot of options there. Certainly need to move some on

What's the right blend? Depends on our chosen style I would imagine
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Excellent interview from Sherwood that!

Obviously he knows Tom Carroll a lot better than me so I can't judge his potential as well as Sherwood can, but everything else in that was a great read.

There's definitely a good, good coach/manager in there - he just needs to be a bit more sensible in front of the cameras instead of - to quote "trying to be everyone's mate"(!)
He was thrown in at the deep end with no experience, but he's definitely got something about him and he does things his way. He also realistic, we've not got the tools at the moment to be consistently playing CL football with the competition we have in front of us.... with stability we might have.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Just dont think he's a good people person. Before anyone defends him against that claim, ask yourself why the majority of fans want him gone.

Also the kinda subs he made v Stoke was somewhat bemusing to me
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

That's a superb interview btw.

Wasn't it just!

No doubt the Haterz will find fault somewhere in there though.

But for the rest of us, it once again underlines who might be best for us next season - a complete outsider (perhaps with no Premier League experience) or someone who has captained a team to the Title and been with Spurs as a player, coach and manager for over eight years now.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/t...ies_but_carroll_could_be_the_answer_1_3577910


Sherwood: Spurs miss Modric’s qualities, but Carroll could be the answer

Tottenham head coach Tim Sherwood
By Ben Pearce, Tottenham correspondent
Tuesday, April 29, 2014
11:59 AM



Tim Sherwood believes Tottenham have failed to replace Luka Modric, the pass master who “assists the assister”, but he feels Tom Carroll could be the solution.


Tom Carroll
Spurs’ best side in recent memory featured Gareth Bale, Luka Modric and Rafael van der Vaart, who all played their parts as Harry Redknapp’s side reached the Champions League quarter-finals in 2011.

And, while much has been made of Bale’s absence this season, Sherwood thinks that Modric’s talents were similarly vital.

As a disappointing season comes to an end, Spurs’ head coach feels the Croatian’s creative qualities are missing from the midfield.

However, he believes that 21-year-old Carroll, who is nearing the end of his season-long loan with QPR, could fill that void at White Hart Lane – and he admits he tried to recall the England Under-21 international in the January transfer window.


Nabil Bentaleb has been an unused substitute in the last four games
“I could go on for ever about this, it’s just about having a blend in different areas of the field and different types of players in different areas of the field, and I just think the squad misses that a little bit,” said Sherwood.

“Sometimes you can turn around and look to make a change, and it’s not always a like-for-like change that you want to make.

“Sometimes you want to bring someone on to make a difference, a different type, and I just think the blend’s not fantastic. But that takes time to work with and it’s also in the recruitment process of the club.

“Sandro and [Etienne] Capoue are similar, in statue and in the way they break up the game. I think Paulinho’s a little bit different, he likes to break forward into the box.

“But we miss that player - I’m not saying [Mousa] Dembele can’t do it because he can pick it up and he can dribble – but we miss someone who moves that ball and passes it between the lines very quickly, and he assists the assister.

“Gareth Bale needed that ball very quickly and I think Luka Modric got it to him very quickly. I think Tom Carroll was that player - he can do that, absolutely. I tried to bring Tom back [in January], it just wasn’t possible.”

So was that the reason for Nabil Bentaleb’s rapid promotion at Spurs? Was Sherwood hoping that he could provide the necessary verve and incision in the midfield?

“No, he’s a different type of player,” said the head coach. “I think he’s got a bit of everything, Nabil. I think he can get up and back, and he can also score.

“We haven’t seen that because he’s not had that freedom to get forward in the games he’s played.”

Bentaleb featured in 19 of Sherwood’s first 22 games in charge at Tottenham, including nine successive starts.

However, the 19-year-old has not appeared since the 4-0 defeat at Liverpool on March 30 and has been an unused substitute for the last four games.

“Really I’ve protected him by taking him out of the spotlight,” said Sherwood. “We’ve been talking about our homegrown players, and I took him out of it.

“He’s been unlucky not to be playing, but I’m trying to protect him – and I think Manchester United did the same with [Adnan] Januzaj. He’s not featured in the last month or so.

“Sometimes a young boy can’t go in and stay in forever. It’s an art of when to put them in and when to bring them back, but he [Bentaleb] isn’t shying away, and he wants to play more than anyone.

“He has his head in his hands when I name the team and he isn’t in it, but unfortunately I’m doing it for his own benefit. You’ve got to be cruel to be kind in the long run.”

Asked if he feels the Spurs fans weren’t appreciating Bentaleb, Sherwood replied: “It’s a bit of that, and a bit of the fact that I think he needs a rest and someone else needed to come in there and do the job.”

Follow me on Twitter @BenPearceSpurs

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Actually talks a lot of sense here


Well now that's better.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Has Sherwood been reading GG? In all seriousness that's a better interview.

I wish him luck at Swindon.
 
Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/t...ies_but_carroll_could_be_the_answer_1_3577910


Sherwood: Spurs miss Modric’s qualities, but Carroll could be the answer

Tottenham head coach Tim Sherwood
By Ben Pearce, Tottenham correspondent
Tuesday, April 29, 2014
11:59 AM



Tim Sherwood believes Tottenham have failed to replace Luka Modric, the pass master who “assists the assister”, but he feels Tom Carroll could be the solution.


Tom Carroll
Spurs’ best side in recent memory featured Gareth Bale, Luka Modric and Rafael van der Vaart, who all played their parts as Harry Redknapp’s side reached the Champions League quarter-finals in 2011.

And, while much has been made of Bale’s absence this season, Sherwood thinks that Modric’s talents were similarly vital.

As a disappointing season comes to an end, Spurs’ head coach feels the Croatian’s creative qualities are missing from the midfield.

However, he believes that 21-year-old Carroll, who is nearing the end of his season-long loan with QPR, could fill that void at White Hart Lane – and he admits he tried to recall the England Under-21 international in the January transfer window.


Nabil Bentaleb has been an unused substitute in the last four games
“I could go on for ever about this, it’s just about having a blend in different areas of the field and different types of players in different areas of the field, and I just think the squad misses that a little bit,” said Sherwood.

“Sometimes you can turn around and look to make a change, and it’s not always a like-for-like change that you want to make.

“Sometimes you want to bring someone on to make a difference, a different type, and I just think the blend’s not fantastic. But that takes time to work with and it’s also in the recruitment process of the club.

“Sandro and [Etienne] Capoue are similar, in statue and in the way they break up the game. I think Paulinho’s a little bit different, he likes to break forward into the box.

“But we miss that player - I’m not saying [Mousa] Dembele can’t do it because he can pick it up and he can dribble – but we miss someone who moves that ball and passes it between the lines very quickly, and he assists the assister.

“Gareth Bale needed that ball very quickly and I think Luka Modric got it to him very quickly. I think Tom Carroll was that player - he can do that, absolutely. I tried to bring Tom back [in January], it just wasn’t possible.”

So was that the reason for Nabil Bentaleb’s rapid promotion at Spurs? Was Sherwood hoping that he could provide the necessary verve and incision in the midfield?

“No, he’s a different type of player,” said the head coach. “I think he’s got a bit of everything, Nabil. I think he can get up and back, and he can also score.

“We haven’t seen that because he’s not had that freedom to get forward in the games he’s played.”

Bentaleb featured in 19 of Sherwood’s first 22 games in charge at Tottenham, including nine successive starts.

However, the 19-year-old has not appeared since the 4-0 defeat at Liverpool on March 30 and has been an unused substitute for the last four games.

“Really I’ve protected him by taking him out of the spotlight,” said Sherwood. “We’ve been talking about our homegrown players, and I took him out of it.

“He’s been unlucky not to be playing, but I’m trying to protect him – and I think Manchester United did the same with [Adnan] Januzaj. He’s not featured in the last month or so.

“Sometimes a young boy can’t go in and stay in forever. It’s an art of when to put them in and when to bring them back, but he [Bentaleb] isn’t shying away, and he wants to play more than anyone.

“He has his head in his hands when I name the team and he isn’t in it, but unfortunately I’m doing it for his own benefit. You’ve got to be cruel to be kind in the long run.”

Asked if he feels the Spurs fans weren’t appreciating Bentaleb, Sherwood replied: “It’s a bit of that, and a bit of the fact that I think he needs a rest and someone else needed to come in there and do the job.”

Follow me on Twitter @BenPearceSpurs

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Actually talks a lot of sense here

Manager in "Spurs could do with Luca Modric" shocker. I'm glad he mentions that not all midfielders need to be exactly the same as each other - if I ever play FM again I'll be sure to stick by such sage advice.

I'm looking forward to the next instalment where we learn "You've got to stick the ball in the net to score" and "Spurs could do with Gareth Bale".
 
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