Yar, nothing to contribute apart from maybe an ounce of sense, an understanding of forward planning and a grasp for tactics over and above "Me bad, me smash"...
the yanks do have a point. we dont have any aircraft carriers - but I hardly think it was 'begging'. Diego Garcia is british owned, with a US naval base where they can launch illegal cluster bomb raids from, and all of the bombing raids of Iraq and Afghan were launched from.
the partnership is hardly over!
I'm not quite sure I see the point of this thread?
Look, I am definitely not one of the "Lets bash the USA" people on here, but this thread smacks of "we're bigger than you and don't need your input, so ya boo, sucks to you".
Please tell me if I'm wrong?
Or, maybe it's just your way of having a pop back at the anti- US threads that have appeared lately?.......if so, you would be doing far better just to ignore them.
Thought it was interesting to be honest. That is, if it's true. The US and the UK are the biggest military allies in the world, would be sort of weird if something like this happened.I'm not quite sure I see the point of this thread?
Look, I am definitely not one of the "Lets bash the USA" people on here, but this thread smacks of "we're bigger than you and don't need your input, so ya boo, sucks to you".
Please tell me if I'm wrong?
Or, maybe it's just your way of having a pop back at the anti- US threads that have appeared lately?.......if so, you would be doing far better just to ignore them.
Not sure why either needs to be there. Can't all this stuff be done remotely yet?
Straight of Hormuz. Iran wanted to close it, huge shipping lane. I suppose you prove your point more by forcing 1,000 ft carriers in through the Straight rather than have a few drones fly overhead.
No quotes?
Maybe the yanks can beg us to keep 10,000 of our troops in the most dangerous part of Afghanistan?
I note they stayed in Kabul whilst our lads are down in Helmand? Niiiice!!!
The Americans are desperate to build a coalition to support their fudged up foreign policy so I very much doubt this story.
Remember the 'Coalition of the Willing' during the Iraq War? The mighty military powers of the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Palau and Solomon Islands, which unfortunately don't actually have armies were involved in Bush's great folly! The UK sent 45,000 troops and held the whole of the south of the country for 8 years.......yep, such a minor contribution.
The USA spends more on defence that the rest of the world combined, newsflash....they have amazing military powers!!
To insult the country which has spend billions and lost over 1000 lives helping them fight their wars over the past 10 years would be at best an act of folly.
Anyhoo....Obama has confirmed massive spending cuts, (about time).......$700 billion a year on defence? Riiiiiiight!!
I know it was banter, but when so many young, (average age 20) British men have died to defend American freedom and ideals, (give me a fudging break) it's in very bad taste.
beg to differ at our 'irrelevance', the irony,
http://www.globalfirepower.com/
Sitting 5th globally not including our nuclear capabilities, not bad at all with all things considered.
Obviously not the same global force as when Britain was holding down a quarter of the world dominating unchallenged for a few hundred years, and when they burnt down the whitehouse in the 19th century when the newly formed USA of A thought they could take us on.
That website says we have an aircraft carrier we do not.
Nor should we pay to get one. We can defend ourselves and the falklands as we are. If russia tried to invade or iran sent a nuke over. I can assure you that america would join the war that would happen as a way of defending itself, also i imagine that france germany italy and poland all high on that list would see a country in the same region as itself attacked and want in on any war as a way of defending itself, not to mention friendly countries like japan, australia and canada.
Wars of the future are not going to be fault by one country on its own but by regions, not that i agree with an european army. But the is no reason why can not be allies. Say iran attacked us, well we would invade to over through the government there. We would get a region to invade, the french theirs and germany theirs and italy theres and so on.
If France or Germany or Canada were attacked i would expect we would make troops available for an invasion, thats how it will happen.
That website says we have an aircraft carrier we do not.
Nor should we pay to get one. We can defend ourselves and the falklands as we are. If russia tried to invade or iran sent a nuke over. I can assure you that america would join the war that would happen as a way of defending itself, also i imagine that france germany italy and poland all high on that list would see a country in the same region as itself attacked and want in on any war as a way of defending itself, not to mention friendly countries like japan, australia and canada.
Wars of the future are not going to be fault by one country on its own but by regions, not that i agree with an european army. But the is no reason why can not be allies. Say iran attacked us, well we would invade to over through the government there. We would get a region to invade, the french theirs and germany theirs and italy theres and so on.
If France or Germany or Canada were attacked i would expect we would make troops available for an invasion, thats how it will happen.
We do have an aircraft carrier, this is from cia sources apparantly, and its called hms illustrious
p.s check out canadas oil reserves and see why the USA has to treat them with kid gloves.