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scaramanga said:
The only surprising thing about that is that Farage managed to get a mistress.
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Two according to the UKIP person who tweeted it.

It would account for him spending so much time in the States. I assume that he wants to set himself up in the media over there.
 
Got to say I am disappointed in Farage, I stopped supporting UKIP some years ago when I was not happy with their defence policy and also their opposition to wind farms, their opposition to same sex couples getting married. But I always had him as a man of principle hence his dislike for the EU project. I looked the other way over his dodgy tax dealings because to be frank, I have not always paid all the tax I perhaps should have, I can look the other way over him shagging about because to be frank, well you know:)

But his support for that macaron Trump is beyond the pale, how anyone can support someone who is so stupid, racist and acts like a petulant 8 year old I do not know. His support of Trump colours his character more then anything else in my view. All that said you can support someones view even if you dislike the person, we would never have got the referendum if it were not for Farage and for that I will always be grateful.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Got to say I am disappointed in Farage, I stopped supporting UKIP some years ago when I was not happy with their defence policy and also their opposition to wind farms, their opposition to same sex couples getting married. But I always had him as a man of principle hence his dislike for the EU project. I looked the other way over his dodgy tax dealings because to be frank, I have not always paid all the tax I perhaps should have, I can look the other way over him shagging about because to be frank, well you know:)

But his support for that macaron Trump is beyond the pale, how anyone can support someone who is so stupid, racist and acts like a petulant 8 year old I do not know. His support of Trump colours his character more then anything else in my view. All that said you can support someones view even if you dislike the person, we would never have got the referendum if it were not for Farage and for that I will always be grateful.
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Well, Trump's decision making isn't the best
 
History is going to judge that Brexit at last broke the political-economy lock of a British elite wedded to banking interests, even if it happened completely by accidentAshoka Mody
 
scaramanga said:
So worst case scenario is a GDP dip of 7.5% - that's not bad for a worst case.
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Looking at the tweet 9.5% was worse case 7.5% was mode. Can't tell from that if it's just counting from current gdp or estimates of where we could have been. So perhaps any growth we would have had has to be on top of that.

if it was an estimate predicting growth if labour won the election I think you would have a different view point
 
r-u-s-x01 said:
Looking at the tweet 9.5% was worse case 7.5% was mode. Can't tell from that if it's just counting from current gdp or estimates of where we could have been. So perhaps any growth we would have had has to be on top of that.

if it was an estimate predicting growth if labour won the election I think you would have a different view point
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Elections in this country are binary, you can't compare in that manner.

There are thousands of outcomes to Brexit, the one described above is the least best deal we can get. I think that bodes well for the better options if the worst is likely to end up in a 7.5% drop. The reality is that we'll never have to accept a deal that bad.
 
scaramanga said:
Elections in this country are binary, you can't compare in that manner.

There are thousands of outcomes to Brexit, the one described above is the least best deal we can get. I think that bodes well for the better options if the worst is likely to end up in a 7.5% drop. The reality is that we'll never have to accept a deal that bad.
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It looks to me that the momentum is with those calling for parliamentary scrutiny of the terms of exit.

This piece by James Kirkup in today's Telegraph is quite good.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...not-an-end-to-parliamentary-democracy-mps-mu/

Miliband has done well to build cross party support for this and reframe the argument.
 
milo said:
That's the midpoint. The worst case in the Treasury projections was 9.5% or £66b a year.
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It's the midpoint (most likely outcome) of a WTO terms (worst case scenario) brexit.

We won't be doing a deal as bad as a WTO terms brexit, because we already have better deals on the table.
 
scaramanga said:
It's the midpoint (most likely outcome) of a WTO terms (worst case scenario) brexit.

We won't be doing a deal as bad as a WTO terms brexit, because we already have better deals on the table.
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What deals do we have on the table?
 
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