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OMT - TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR VS southampton
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thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
Hoddle would get a few more excuses from me, he was a very unlucky manager. Jol? In his first-season? I think he got plenty of leeway and latitude. Harry? Same thing. In fact, I think all Spurs managers have been treated pretty fairly during their first seasons by the majority.
Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
Kaboul, King, Ekotto, Parker, Modric, VDV, Adebayor
AuroRaman
Chris Armstrong
=D> as always matey, you bring things into perspective and showcase why we are doing very well considering we've had an overhaul.
Yes. There is plenty that can be improved all round. But we are fourth when we have be slagged down at every quarter because we are a team in transition, we have lost exceptional players and we need a couple of the new players to gel.
I'm not saying we are challenging for the league by any means. But for fudges sake, we are doing something right to be the fourth best performing team in the country in spite of the above.
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
Here's the saddest fact. We were third for much of it and playing wonderful stuff (albeit not scoring enough goals perhaps)...I remember people begging for Modric to leave because he was 'judas' this 'and 'rat-face' that...well mate, people can't have it all. And when you lose players like Modric, you lose the central axis of how we played for 3 seasons and all the players around him who remain have to learn a new way...the truth is, we need a bit more quality (Moutinho type)...
greatwhitenorf
Vedran Corluka
And if you'd offered most Spurs fans, before the season started, that we'd be fourth, with an away win at OT, with that group missing most or all of our games, they have been delighted to take it.
I've got no beefs about our current situation. Sure, it'd be nice to see us stylishly swanning about the park for 90 mins., but these ugly wins are hardly worth diving down the well over. And I refuse to throw Jake Livermore under the bus like so many on here.
William Gallas, on the other hand, deserves to be spotlighted for his shortcomings. He was responsible for three Chelsea goals last week and missed - quit on! - his marking assignment on Saints' only goal. Once we get Kaboul and Assou-Ekotto back, Vertonghen moves into a CB role and the mobility of the back four - going both ways - improves markedly.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
True but then the issue about why are we buying brick players comes up... 14m on sig and dempsey is a bit of a joke when what we needed was creativity. It brings up a whole new debate
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
it's like some people refuse to see why we are taking some time to settle - 7 players right there who would have been in our starting line up had they been fit or still a spurs player and people are wondering why we aren't firing on all cylinders for 90 minutes every week, frankly it's laughable. It's a great achievement we are where we are so far this season and given time i have the utmost confidence the performances will start to come up to the level we want to see
but for Christ sake people give it some fudging time - we have gone under a fair bit of transformation and whether you think it was needed or not doesn't really matter because it has happened and it is only fair to judge after a fair amount of time.
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superfaisty
Nico Claesen
poor second half - they were always going to come out and put themselves about a bit, but shows what happens when we don't have a ball-carrier in the side - no calmness no control, we were dropping deeper and deeper and making them look a lot better than they were.
I wish we could keep it simple and play to our strengths - lennie and bale on the wings stretching their defence, and pay with a bit of urgency. I know we were away from home but they are a poor side and we should have been dominating them.
I love Friedel but time and again I dread it when we try and keep possession, it goes backwards and invariably the ball goes back to the big man and he is forced to hoof it up to GHod knows where, because it went to a Soton player most times out of ten, putting us under presure again and again. Not his fault but his distribution is poor in these situations. if he is going to keep Loris out of the side he needs to play it quicker - hit it straight back to one of the defenders and keep possession.
Defoe - wasn't one of his best games. I hate to say it but he looks knackered, and is missing opportunities he would have snapped up earlier in the season. Walker crossed the ball to him a least a couple of times and he hopelessly mishit it. Whether Andre thinks it or not he needs a break soon or we won't have any strikers when Ade tinkles of to the ACN.
Dempsey - good follow up to Defoe's lae shot, but please Andre give him a role where he can be effective - he was anonymous for pretty much the whole game save the goal - and the Deuce looks unfit. if we're going ot play a pressing game that has to start from the front but defoe looked knackered, Deuce looked unfit - the second half their defence had plenty of time to play it out from the back. To be honest why we aren't playing a 4-3-3 instread of a 4-2-3-1 is beyond me as the player just behind defoe is non-existent in terms of effect - wouldmuch rather siggy or jake played in the middle alongside sandro and hudd.
Love Verts but GHod bless him he aint a LB and he lacks pace - at the end when he got his yellow card it was because he couldn't keep up with their player. I thought AVB would bring on naughton and move Verts central as Gallas looked to be struggling late on but he didn't.
Walker had one of his better games IMO - still no as good as las season but not as bad as he has been this season, so good on the lad
overall we made hard work of what should have been an easy win - against better teams we will struggle, so we need to lift our game. Onwards and upwards. COYS
I wish we could keep it simple and play to our strengths - lennie and bale on the wings stretching their defence, and pay with a bit of urgency. I know we were away from home but they are a poor side and we should have been dominating them.
I love Friedel but time and again I dread it when we try and keep possession, it goes backwards and invariably the ball goes back to the big man and he is forced to hoof it up to GHod knows where, because it went to a Soton player most times out of ten, putting us under presure again and again. Not his fault but his distribution is poor in these situations. if he is going to keep Loris out of the side he needs to play it quicker - hit it straight back to one of the defenders and keep possession.
Defoe - wasn't one of his best games. I hate to say it but he looks knackered, and is missing opportunities he would have snapped up earlier in the season. Walker crossed the ball to him a least a couple of times and he hopelessly mishit it. Whether Andre thinks it or not he needs a break soon or we won't have any strikers when Ade tinkles of to the ACN.
Dempsey - good follow up to Defoe's lae shot, but please Andre give him a role where he can be effective - he was anonymous for pretty much the whole game save the goal - and the Deuce looks unfit. if we're going ot play a pressing game that has to start from the front but defoe looked knackered, Deuce looked unfit - the second half their defence had plenty of time to play it out from the back. To be honest why we aren't playing a 4-3-3 instread of a 4-2-3-1 is beyond me as the player just behind defoe is non-existent in terms of effect - wouldmuch rather siggy or jake played in the middle alongside sandro and hudd.
Love Verts but GHod bless him he aint a LB and he lacks pace - at the end when he got his yellow card it was because he couldn't keep up with their player. I thought AVB would bring on naughton and move Verts central as Gallas looked to be struggling late on but he didn't.
Walker had one of his better games IMO - still no as good as las season but not as bad as he has been this season, so good on the lad
overall we made hard work of what should have been an easy win - against better teams we will struggle, so we need to lift our game. Onwards and upwards. COYS
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
Ekotto, Dembele, Ade all missing either as options or rotation players...not counting longer-term injuries...BTW, you are correct, the EXACT same thing happened at Utd, Reading and Soton; we won the games. Is it all luck?
Was there one person on here who thought buying Siggy was a bad idea?
I seem to remember it was pretty unanimous that we had a bargain.
It's a match thread, people will always make unreasoned comments, vent a little, based on whatever they're seeing right now. It's part of the fun.
Leeds Spur
Banned
Well chill the fudge out and enjoy the win then.
Leeds Spur
Banned
No it's very tedious and shows the age and ****iness off the poster concerned
Leeds Spur
Banned
Anyone who thinks this isn't about Thursday can smoke a dingdong
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
I didnt think it was a bad idea I thought it was a fudgein joke of a signing. But people had a go at me so thought id give the guy some time. I thought he was a MOTD player and wasnt sure why we spent 8m - wasnt this before AVB was even brought in?
Its not about whether I was right or not though or anyone its about buying good players and if AVB brought those players then we cant bring up the past players as an excuse that our performances lack creativity etc. If Levy brought those players then well... thats not backing a manager. Anyways its a whole new debate im sure.
Leeds Spur
Banned
14 million is a steal for 2 quality prem players.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Yes 14m for two premier quality players would be a steal.
Leeds Spur
Banned
flimflam. No posts from you to back that up at all. Full of brick pal