thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
Yes indeed, Milo said on our pod he wants a list of 'not that sort of players' so as we can all refer to it LOL
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Yes indeed, Milo said on our pod he wants a list of 'not that sort of players' so as we can all refer to it LOL
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
Ange has been saying from the get that to aspire to the City's you have to believe in what you do like they do, hasn't he. Chelsea was the marker for that. Yesterday was seeing it bedded in yet further. BTW, for all the hype Liverpool got on their City performance yesterday, I felt our match at Eastlands deserved a lot more respect as we played OUR way.
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
He barreled through him second-half. Primary camera angle missed it, I saw it on a replay from another angle. I'm not imagining it
Kenyan Spur
Peter Taylor
OK,
So lets look at this season only.
Watkins has 16 goals & 15 assists
Son has 14 goals & 8 assists.
They both play in the same league and face the same teams
I am not taking anything away from Sonny's performance for us. He is my favorite player.
What I don't agree with is your wild claim that Watkins is no better than a backup player.
It is elementary Mr Scaramanga.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Paul Walsh
It really is just a matter of opinion, who knows how any player will perform at an other club? Chelsea thought Werner was a goal scorer based on his German numbers.
Kenyan Spur
Peter Taylor
So, according to your opinion, hopefully backed by solid medical facts, and not just wishful thinking:
- Watkins relies on his pace and at the ripe old age of 28, he will be on the downward slope of his carrier. !!!!!!!!
- Spurs have a few players who also rely on their pace.
- Son is 32, and according to your analysis, he should be well into his downward slope!!! I haven't seen any signs of that.
- Werner is 28, and therefore like Watkins, he too should be hitting the downward slope.
I personally, don't believe that age alone is the main factor about pace.
A lot of other factors come into play, like your build, injury record and your DNA.
BTW, I am 74 years old, but my pace is the same as it was when I was 25.
However, I am not talking about running on a field. I am talking about me flying a plane.!!!
I do that at least once a month. I "borrow" a friends 4 seater Cessna to fly to game parks in Kenya and Tanzania, and also
to nearby islands like Zanzibar and Lamu.
Kenyan Spur
Peter Taylor
Really. are you sure.
That is 24 goals a season. Even Haaland won't get to that figure this season.
Where did Werner score these goals?
I thought that he was a flop at Chelsea.
His current club won't have loaned him to us with that kind of performace.
I hope that you are not including his school days exploits.
Really. are you sure.
That is 24 goals a season. Even Haaland won't get to that figure this season.
Where did Werner score these goals?
I thought that he was a flop at Chelsea.
His current club won't have loaned him to us with that kind of performace.
I hope that you are not including his school days exploits.
Werner scored 28 goals in 34 games for Leipzig in 2019/20 with 8 assists, 34 in 45 in all comps that year, he was the next big thing, which is why Chelsea bought him for close to €50M (release clause).
He has the ability, his Chelsea career actually started ok as well (playing on left), then Chelsea decided they need to shoehorn in Pulisic (IIRC) into Werner's position and play Werner through the middle and it fell apart from there, confidence went and he's been trying to find that for back since. He has more than 150 senior level goals, he's done double figures in league goals in 4 Bundesliga seasons in a row .. this idea that he is some kind of mug is ridiculous ..
Bishop
Terry Venables
He's not a mug but he also doesn't have a record of consistent high scoring. His next best after the 28 goal break out year is a very respectable 21 but after that its tallies of 4, 6, 13, 16 etc.
He can score but he's never been a great finisher. The season he got the 28 Leipzig created absolutely oodles of chances and he did do well but he still missed loads. That's just him, he's never been and at this stage of his career probably never will be a cold eyed finisher.
nattenskonge
Drama queen
To get cl at 5 place we need Arsenal win! And we need that WestHam beat freiburg.. that will be a joy to cheer…
Its crazy what ManU and Saudi Sportswashing Machine did in CL has done that England for the first time in five years aint top 2 teams..
I think we need to be in the final in CL and EL to have a chance and no german teams in the semi…
Its crazy what ManU and Saudi Sportswashing Machine did in CL has done that England for the first time in five years aint top 2 teams..
I think we need to be in the final in CL and EL to have a chance and no german teams in the semi…
78 goals in 127 matches for Leipzig. Not all of those would have been the full 90 either.Really. are you sure.
That is 24 goals a season. Even Haaland won't get to that figure this season.
Where did Werner score these goals?
I thought that he was a flop at Chelsea.
His current club won't have loaned him to us with that kind of performace.
I hope that you are not including his school days exploits.
And that's already more than he's ever scored in a whole season at the top level.OK,
So lets look at this season only.
Watkins has 16 goals & 15 assists
Son has 14 goals & 8 assists.
They both play in the same league and face the same teams
I am not taking anything away from Sonny's performance for us. He is my favorite player.
What I don't agree with is your wild claim that Watkins is no better than a backup player.
It is elementary Mr Scaramanga.
Do you think that, at 28, he's suddenly become a Son level player out of nowhere? Or is he (as I intimated) having a ridiculous stand out season with the rest of his club that they are unlikely ever to repeat?
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Will be some mind melting around here if we need arsenal to do us a favour.
We don’t need them to fail for us to succeed.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
If we finish 5th then I’m perfectly fine with us going in to the Europa League next season. You get what you deserve and if we finish 5th we wouldn’t deserve CL.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
If 5th gets CL then we’ll have got in through the back door, but you shouldn’t feel entitled to CL for finishing 5th. If it gets CL then it’s a bonus, not a right.If 5th does end up getting us CL then that in turn means we do deserve it?
What we’ll be we’ll be.
nattenskonge
Drama queen
Its not a back way… the two best Leagues get one more place.. its not like a lottery. Its the same as Norway has one place and England has four
nattenskonge
Drama queen
But after 90min with Arsenal - porto… how the f%}^# are they top of the League???????
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
England has 4, exactly, if you finish 5th your relying on other things to happen out of your control.
England has 4 because at some point in the past it was extended due to the performance of English clubs in Europe - same same with the potential of 5th place gaining entry this season.
I get your point, i was just making a point against your comment that 'you get what you deserve' (as in if 5th gets CL and then we get 5th then CL is what 'we deserve' by default)