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Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Yeh I did, but that doesn't contradict my point
Poch told the club what was needed, hell he told the fans and did an interview on it but that would have meant at the time potentially going back before forward again, the club decided to go quick intent mix fix in Jose rather than that route. Everyone knew what was needed and we went against it, I suspect as a throw of the CL dice to retain status, it didn't work as times proved.
For me, seeing as the board are not logically going anywhere, our long term success hinges on us working towards a team and manager that can grow from the start with no war scars and to chisal off this mentality everyone talks about, also a return to young, ambitious and talent youngsters who can play high octane football and not slow drudgy Sideways and back crap that we are and have for the last 2 years.
Anyway, regardless Poch was right and the board was wrong
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glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Yep, indeed.
But honestly, do you see ANY signs that the board have learnt or lean in anyway?
They always seem to take a decision and 'wing it' for the now just to get by...until the next crises...
Personally, I don't feel anything is different now
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
Yup. We need to get rid of players, coaches, and staff who aren’t winners in their heads. There are too many who appear to not be bothered about not winning. Last night, Everton had so much more energy and drive than us. And both teams had clear rewards for playing with intensity. I didn’t expect a ‘bounce’ after conte left. I’m expecting a dire, turgid end to this awful season, and STILL hope things will be better next season.
mephitis
Niko Kranjcar
Me and the bloke in front of me were saying pretty much the same thing on that passage of play. Why pass it back and forth across the area? Why not pass it out to Porro (who was one of our better players and would at least have taken it forward) on the wide right instead of back to Lloris? And who thought passing it to Sanchez to make that killer forward pass was ever an idea that would come to fruition?
Skipp is better and more disciplined in a defensive role. PEH is better if he can get involved in chasing and pressing but he switches off too often to be a top DM.
Skipp is also 5 years younger and will still improve, PEH won't.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
I'm always wary of players with a poor first touch (which he seems to have).
Skipp should do better but PEHs position is poor, he should be closer to Skipp. Skipp has a player either side of him that are free and nobody is close enough to help him deal with that.
There's no reason for PEH to be that wide with the WB already protecting that side. Skipp jogs across to get to where the danger is and PEH barely walks until it's too late and puts in a bit more effort.
Sanchez could've also move forward a bit earlier as he was free and not marking anyone.
He didn't seem to have any prob while at Brighton and was their best player for his last couple of years there.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Skipp is a decent squad player for a CL level team.... A poor man's Nicky Butt if you will. Nothing wrong with that, squads need players like that as you're not going to have a whole squad of great players (especially at a club like Spurs). If the club want to do anything other than pay lip service to winning the big trophies however then we need a far better first choice player than Skipp.
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
What's even more baffling is that even with a player down Everton (Everton ffs!) were still able to close down all our passing lanes. Every pass we made had to be inch perfect, in order not to be intercepted. Watching on TV I couldn't see what the situation was further down the pitch, but as much as Everton had pushed up, I can't believe we didn't have the numerical advantage at the halfway line and beyond. All we had to do is just lob it forward, especially after it was evident that, due to Everton's pressing and our bad passing, playing out of the back just led to one mistake after another. Even more so after our best passing CB had been subbed. And OK, maybe lobbing it forward is not a real strategy, but if you don't want to do that, at least bring one more CM on to stretch Everton more in our half and open some passing lanes. I mean, ffs.
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And by the same token better than PEH. Bentancur, Sarr, and Bissouma (if he gets back to the level at Brighton) are better choices for more progressive players than both. If you want a defensive player in there to cover the defence then it's Skipp over PEH every day.
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
I don't think the problem was Keane's goal. Yeah, he should have been closed down, but it's still a shot from way out, which has a 2% chance of going in. The problem was ceding control to Everton after we scored and not pushing forward to get another goal to put the game out of reach. We played like a 10-man APOEL Nicosia would play after going 1-0 up against Real at the Bernabeu.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Bentancur is an excellent player. First choice in any Spurs supporter's mind I'm sure. Bissouma has been terrible in every game he has played for Spurs. Sarr isn't ready for PL football, needs a loan IMO (I think a championship loan would be good for him). I'd like to have a better option than Hojbjerg alongside Bentancur but the club is likely to have FAR more pressing needs (a keeper, at least one CB (if moving to 4 at the back) and at least two if continuing to play with 3), a creative attacking midfield player and cover at RWF) on which to spend our likely limited transfer budget.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Indeed.... and judging from the lack of instruction coming from the sidelines our retreat into a low-block post scoring was a conscious tactical decision from the manager (can we really bestow that auspicious title on Stellini?). Stellini's comments after the game also indicated to me that he was happy with the way the players carried out the tactics.
Agree, a lot will depend on how many players we can offload and if we can get a couple of players on a Bosman.
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
He didn't seem to have a poor touch when he was at Brighton though...
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Do any of us really know? Did we actually really watch him? Or do we just assume that because he had a couple of good games against us that we saw?
Consider also that, as we haven't really employed much of a press since Pochettino's second last season at Spurs, Bissouma's games against us that we all watched would've seen him having zero pressure on him when receiving the ball.
I watched a lot of Brighton when he was there and he was really good at carrying the ball forward and had a decent passing range. We're seeing nothing of the player that he was at Brighton.
I believe @Danishfurniturelover lives there and watches Brighton a good bit so maybe he can chip in as well.