dennark is a mixed economy. Social democracies are mixed economies, which was born out of socialism as a concept as was (at the other end of the scale) communism.
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Lucas Moura
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dennark is a mixed economy. Social democracies are mixed economies, which was born out of socialism as a concept as was (at the other end of the scale) communism.
we are going round in circles. If you are a social democrat then you believe in a form of socialism.
The definition of socialism is different to the definition of social democracy. Social democracy may have been born out of socialism but it is not the same thing. It has different view points. It is why the danish prime minister made the distinction and why tony blair called it the 3rd way (also why he won).
I and many people (guessing including moura) will never vote for a party that advocates a planned economy. Where people can't own their own businesses. There needs to be a balance between capitalism and socialism. Hence the mixed economy with protection for the weakest and equal oportunities. But also rewarding those who work hard or are most skilled.
I think people are just used to calling themselves socialist because it is anti capitalist. Then wonder why they don't win elections.
Labels are important in politics. I strongly believe that if bernie sanders stopped saying he was a socialist or even democratic socialist. Called himself a social democrat instead (which more closely matched his policies) more people would have voted for him and he'd be president today. He'd also be head of the dnc and could have reformed the party. The world would have been a better place. Or he'd have been killed.
Ultimately people believe in fairness. Ok you were better than me and deserve the reward. What they dislike is when the game is rigged.
Ultimately people believe in fairness. Ok you were better than me and deserve the reward. What they dislike is when the game is rigged.
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metalgear
Nayim
Nazis believed themselves to be socialists didn't they? Lol.
It's all very confusing, better to define who owns the means of production and how national leaders are chosen.
Democratic elections for socialist leaders who ensure sustainable means of production and equality for all seems like what the world needs more more of now.
This video tackles the ambiguities well
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Nazis believed themselves to be socialists didn't they? Lol.
It's all very confusing, better to define who owns the means of production and how national leaders are chosen.
Democratic elections for socialist leaders who ensure sustainable means of production and equality for all seems like what the world needs more more of now.
This video tackles the ambiguities well
Sent from my SM-T865 using Fapatalk
Nice. Although then we have authoritarianism and liberalism.
I'd probably have socail democracy to the left of centre. But then who defines what the centre is?
Extreme capitalism would be anarchy, everyone for themselves. But then you have anarchists on the left aswell, but is that just to tear down and rebuild?
You could use the political compass (not the test it's brick). But that's subjective too.
Yes i'm drunk now.
Extreme capitalism would be anarchy, everyone for themselves. But then you have anarchists on the left aswell, but is that just to tear down and rebuild?
You could use the political compass (not the test it's brick). But that's subjective too.
Yes i'm drunk now.
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Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
The Nazis were not socialists in any way, shape or form. Capitalism was left in place. The socialist part of their label was a cynical attempt to garner more working class support. Most German Nazis were from the lower middle classes.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Hjalmar Schacht's economics were fairly socialist. In the direction of Keynes. He was very into public works (the autobahns) and protectionism (autarky). Autarky is pretty extreme socialism
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Thought we missed the option of him off the bench last night. A bit of extra zip late in the game and he seems one of the few in our squad that Conte will trust with minutes.
People whinge about him sometimes giving the ball away, I couldn’t give a fudge - he is one of the very few that actually has some creativity in him. He can break the lines, has some actual pace and one of the only players outside the front 3 actual capable of scoring a goal or two….
Playing a bit loose with the definition of creativity, pace and goal scoring there
Would have been a useful player to throw on last night though with 10-15 to go
Ha, He consistently breaks the lines which creates things in attack whether they always come off or not. And I said capable of scoring a goal or two which he does, this is why I wish we had signed Eriksen he is creative and scores goals - something our midfield is so rubbish at that Hojberg actually looks like a goalscoring midfielderPlaying a bit loose with the definition of creativity, pace and goal scoring there
Would have been a useful player to throw on last night though with 10-15 to go
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Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Oh I like and agree with this.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
Keynes was a liberal, not a socialist.
Mosquito_Coasting
Jonathan Woodgate
Your pessimism is breaking new ground here, mate.
Karl Marx or Moura? Not sure what the topic is in here any more