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Jose Mourinho - SACKED
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I'd say you're trying to distract from our attack being poor by using another low scoring team as evidence to the contrary, which is kinda the definition of a RH.
Plenty of other ways to describe our (lack of) attacking play than just reeling off stats i agree but sometimes a stat does the rounds online which paints a picture.
I don't think you'll satisfy both ends of the spectrum with one person.
Who are the proven top level managers available?
Who are the up and coming managers?
Unless there's a Klopp at Dortmund type that straddles the two I'd say you need to go one route or the other
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Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
The problem is now that only certain clubs win trophies to prove themselves so then what is proven?
I just look for coaches and managers who team are on the upward curve and it looks like they have changed something to help
Poch had players here on the upward curve but he helped them get better. Even though we didn’t win anything I’d argue he is proven
in Germany the guy at gladbach would be that man I guess (Marco Rose who is going to Dortmund), but he hasn’t won anything although achieved CL qualification for his team
I think Erik Ten Haag would fit the bill as he has the element of proven but also the need to demonstrate more
and in England I think I argued why I’d go for Potter
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
Parker will be good IMO
If he keeps them up he has done brilliant
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Spot on.
I think the point Neville makes on the next month being a turning point is fair, if too generous. We will see what happens when this chancer goes up against Moyes soon.
Lose that game...*draw* that game, and there is no way back for him, imo.
We pay this bloke 15m a year to be an upscale Tony Pulis. If gets outdone by Moyes, that has to be the end for him - has to be. He prides himself on hating projects and good football, and being a results man.
Fine. Give us results.
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
I agree, this was on the money. I don't think it is about West Ham though (it will be pride wise for us for sure) it is about where we are going. Two men need to be honest. Until then, everything is academic isn't it, sadly...
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
The Spam game will tell us a lot, though. Spam will be high in confidence, and will aim to bully us and be first to every ball right from the start.
They will put their tricky wingers and bruisers like Antonio up against our papier mache husks of a defence. They will use the height and poaching abilities of blokes like Dawson and Soucek at corners against Hugo, now rooted to his line like a limp, useless statue.
They will, in short, do everything Mourinho teams were once famed for doing. Except against us.
Conversely, to win, we will need to have greater will than them, run for 90 minutes, and *outplay* them. If we hold on to a 1-0 lead, we will lose. If we fall back in panic, we lose. We need to keep the ball make and take chances, and keep them away from our half for the full 90.
In other words, we need to be the antithesis of this bloke's typical approach. While having useless defenders like Sanchez and Dier undoing any good work we do higher up.
15m a year, a summer window Poch could only dream of.
Time to show why he's worth any of it. Or I hope to GHod we leave him in that stadium and sack him via text message on our way out, because the 'results man' will have lost his fifth game out of six to David f*cking Moyes and West Ham.
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
Their set pieces scare me
We’re gonna get done on every one with our current CBS
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
On that simple parameter we will not win. Worryingly, Hojberg is looking like he needs a break, yet because Skipp is on loan we have no-one close to what he can do for us. If I were Antonio I'd be laughing at the prospect.
Will be a tough game, was about to post Soucek is suspended but just seen it's been rescinded. Nailed on to score now - players should be up for it after the first game.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Aren’t there also ‘proven project’ guys?
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
He was brought in to win trophies
No idea on the time frame element and TBH the whole time frame thing has been kinda messed up hugely by COVID, which has also impacted our ability to back him in a manner I believe may have been planned
Look at how clubs like pool are now doing deals on the buy now pay later model just in case, as they can’t plan even with their mega turnover
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
Such as? Klopp is probably the most relevant in that he was given 4 years and a lot of cash to deliver his project
Not sure who else but gladly hear suggestions
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Rodgers? Ten Hag? Nagelsman? Tuchel?
Mulletperm
Mauricio Taricco
What was the Tweet posted earlier? It's been deleted.
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
Projects?
3 of them are managers who have came into successful sides and won things (Rogers in Scotland, Tuchel at Dortmund and PSG and Ten Hag, who I rate very highly) and haven’t had long anywhere where they had to build anything other than ten hag
Nagelsmann... maybe. I mean they have silent a LOT of money to build their team, but the players have increased in value. He has benefitted from the RB system of feeding players up the chain too and there’s no doubt the guys done a great job. So yeah he could be described as someone to build a project
Brendan is doing it now and doing a great job
I do like Ten Hag and think he would fit what we need well.