As i said they can redraw the plans anyway they want.
Teams in the esl don't go into the uefa competitions.
So then you have the highest after that getting into the cl, after that the el....
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European Super League - Dead on arrival
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As i said they can redraw the plans anyway they want.
Teams in the esl don't go into the uefa competitions.
So then you have the highest after that getting into the cl, after that the el....
Interesting. The premier league statement doesn't mention uefa or fifa at all.
"Further to today’s opinion, the Premier League reiterates its commitment to the principles underpinning the current balance of domestic and European competitions including:
- Open access
- Annual merit-based qualification from domestic leagues for European club competitions
- Weekends reserved for domestic football
- Substantial solidarity funding for football development"
https://www.premierleague.com/news/2985264
Think negotiations will start soon.
"Further to today’s opinion, the Premier League reiterates its commitment to the principles underpinning the current balance of domestic and European competitions including:
- Open access
- Annual merit-based qualification from domestic leagues for European club competitions
- Weekends reserved for domestic football
- Substantial solidarity funding for football development"
https://www.premierleague.com/news/2985264
Think negotiations will start soon.
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
You can, yes.
But it's highly unlikely any association would tolerate that as it would undermine the competition.
You asked how this kills the ESL.
The answer is it kills politically, not legally.
How does teams going into the esl instead of another competition undermine the pl?
The pl have released a statement basically outlining what they want the new competition to be.
- Open access
- Annual merit-based qualification from domestic leagues for European club competitions
- Weekends reserved for domestic football
- Substantial solidarity funding for football development"
If the esl matches that they'd agree if the money is right. As would everyone else. Unless they think uefa is some sort of paragon of virtue.
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
If the ESL matched that then the conversation changes.
As it stands it's a closed shop competition.
Which is why i said they can redraw the plans anyway they want. The negotiations will be starting now.
The main problem is that they have to do it fast, cause uefa can ban them from next seasons cl which will hurt. Or they keep it quiet and announce again when everything is in place.
Can’t see this happening anytime soon. Current situation looks like clubs would have to withdraw from their current domestic and continental competitions to set up a new league. Would appear to be a big gamble. Also not helped that one of the 3 hanging on, publicly at least. Appears to be in turmoil with their board having all just resigned.
You're probably right. A huge amount would have to go into it. Who officiates? Tv/streaming/sponsorship deals. Negotiations with domestic leagues... It's on the table though. There will have to be talks.
I'm not even sure what the ruling means in some respects. Can uefa punish clubs for planning a competition? Or do they have to take part in one (play a game)?
Robbo
Les Ferdinand
So basically a new tier of European football above the CL - or instead of the CL? Merit based qualification is the essence of what the proposed super league ISN'T supposed to be, so I'd be surprised if that happens.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Paul Walsh
When has merit had anything to do with money?
Bishop
Paul Stalteri
The point of the ESL was to guarantee the constituent clubs perpetual entry into a top tier European competition no matter the state of the teams actual performance. They aren't going to change the entry requirements and make it completely merit based as that would make the entire process pointless.
It's basically dead as an elitest competition for the giants of European football.
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Yet that is what they are proposing.
Reichart said the revamped Super League project will be more inclusive with "sporting merit applied," which was one of the main criticisms of the initial plan.
"The concept of a fixed [guaranteed] placement is not something that we are currently considering," he added. "Sporting merit will be applied to all members of that Super League."
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/uef...ject-is-very-much-alivecould-relaunch-in-2025
See my post above.
Glenda's Legs
Les Ferdinand
Still waiting as well to see if/when the government will bring in legislation to cover the findings of the fan-led review, one of which would mean fans of a club needing to approve an ESL type move before a club could join.
Bishop
Paul Stalteri
But that is what they proposed. That is what caused the furore in the first place. If as I said it's now dead as a concept for exclusively pseudo elite clubs, what's the point? It won't be offering anything different than the overly bloated CL already does.
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The old proposal is gone. We still have to see what any new proposal is.
More money for the clubs, they have more control, salary cap that is enforced, more competitive games...
The premier league has relegation, but how many of the big 5 that proposed it have been relegated since it's launch?
johnola
Mauricio Taricco
It’s all short term.
Leeds and Blackburn were top clubs at the outset, overspent, fell into the abyss. Saudi Sportswashing Machine have beaten this path too.
It was always a big two, but with Arsenals success a big three, then Chelsea, now we also have City, Spurs and Saudi Sportswashing Machine.
Nothing in England needs to be locked in. There is also scope for powers to emerge from Yorkshire and the Southwest, perhaps Wales.
If anything we should be shaking off the European fleas. Perhaps we could invite the money grubbing clubs to join in the first round of the FA cup.
I don't want the super league. I want the eu to come up with proper rules for football that make it more fair and competitive. But that is unlikely.
I'm just pointing out that this is most likely going to happen.