markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
about £75m to £100m more
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We blew it!
- Thread starter The Portugeezer
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about £75m to £100m more
milo
Jack L. Jones
Not sure about 2011/12 but in 2010/11 it was roughly double
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...pending-from-the-200001-season-to-201112.html
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
probably a brick load more.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
£ mins 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
Chelsea 109 114 133 149 153 173 168 176
Man United 77 96 92 121 123 132 153 162
Arsenal 66 83 90 101 104 111 124 143
Liverpool 64 69 78 90 96 114 129 131
Emirates Marketing Project 38 34 36 54 83 133 174 201
Us 33 41 44 53 60 67 91 90.2
CFC spent £86m more than us last season
Chelsea 109 114 133 149 153 173 168 176
Man United 77 96 92 121 123 132 153 162
Arsenal 66 83 90 101 104 111 124 143
Liverpool 64 69 78 90 96 114 129 131
Emirates Marketing Project 38 34 36 54 83 133 174 201
Us 33 41 44 53 60 67 91 90.2
CFC spent £86m more than us last season
Kingdawson
Banned
so why didn't it make a difference last season? why didn't Chelski or Liverpool finish above us.
You keep mentioning wages as if it's the main way you measure a teams success when compared to it's rivals but your argument is flawed on so many levels. Actually, as well as being flawed you also contradict yourself.
Didn't you say you felt this season was more successful than last season? you then talk about wages as an excuse for Arsenal finishing above us but last season we finished above 2 teams with a higher wage bill and this season we finished above just one (Liverpool) So going by your argument, you should be considering last season a bigger success.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
If money spent on wages and transfer fees aren't influencing where teams finish in the league why do you want Levy to spend more money?
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
There is a positive correlation between increased wages and an increased finish position in the table, however that does not mean there are not outliers.
Kingdawson
Banned
Where did i say transfer fees? and my point is that it's not as big a reason as Mumorn continuously likes to point out. I would have thought the point was obvious enough.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
I never said it was a problem. I was just simply saying that it technically cost £52m to finish a point above us. I never said that is WHY they finished above us, they finished above us because they were better than us over 38 games. We finished above Liverpool and Chelsea last year because we were better over 38 games.
It's why I think we've done brilliantly despite not spending as big as some of our rivals.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Last season was a bottlejob, absolutely no doubt about it.
This year is not a collapse, but I'm of the opinion that whilst Arsenal have done very well to catch us, we ourselves have handed it to them also, It's a combination of the two. The fact is, we didn't do enough. Ok we didn't lose many games in 2013, but the results against Fulham, Wigan and Liverpool really did cost us. We should have got so much confidence after beating scum, but all it did was fire THEM up and we lost 3 of the next 4 games in all comps. The Liverpool result was a classic example of Spurs shooting themselves in the foot, we shouldn't have even drawn that game let alone lost it.
This year is not a collapse, but I'm of the opinion that whilst Arsenal have done very well to catch us, we ourselves have handed it to them also, It's a combination of the two. The fact is, we didn't do enough. Ok we didn't lose many games in 2013, but the results against Fulham, Wigan and Liverpool really did cost us. We should have got so much confidence after beating scum, but all it did was fire THEM up and we lost 3 of the next 4 games in all comps. The Liverpool result was a classic example of Spurs shooting themselves in the foot, we shouldn't have even drawn that game let alone lost it.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
So you're saying that money spent on transfer fees does influence league position, but money spent on wages doesn't?
The correlation between money spent and league position has been shown and it's significant.
Kingdawson
Banned
You're missing the point. Literally every opportunity, Mumorn likes to point to wages in comparison to opposition so it's obvious he places great importance on this . Ok that's fine, but if it's as he likes to point out then i fail to see how he also feels this season was better than last when we finished above 2 teams who spent more than us last seas on compared to one.
Kingdawson
Banned
I've explained it above.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
So becaues Momorn places great importance on money spent as a deciding factor in league positions he must thus use how many higher spending teams we finish ahead of in the league as the only measurement to judge our performances in a season?
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indianspur
Guest
you know whats scary??? it might take 76-78 points to get into the CL next season because Chelsea will have Mourinho plus 100 mill extra worth of players, Arse are said to be spending some of the 80 mill in their bank account.
is it possible that Man Utd, City, Chelsea and Arse could all finish with more than 76 points??? i think it might be
is it possible that Man Utd, City, Chelsea and Arse could all finish with more than 76 points??? i think it might be
Kingdawson
Banned
Money spent? you mean wages spent?
If someone goes on about something numerous times, you can safely assume he values this higher than other other measuring tools. If that's the case then he should compare seasons based on the tool that he considers to be the most important. He likes to point on countless occasions about wages ...ok fine.....but doesn't use this argument to analyse last seasons performance. This season it's pointed out after finishing below Arsenal...last season it's not mentioned despite finishing about a team that pays double our wages.
Do you not see absolutely anything positive about Spurs this season?
Kingdawson
Banned
Don't do that Diego. I pointed out numerous positive things in the other thread so please just read that post.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Or you could assume that he thinks that this is something that relative to other factors isn't considered enough by others so he finds it appropriate to bring it up.
Or you could assume that this above other factors is something that he for whatever reasons finds interesting, so he brings it up.
Or you could assume that he feels that this is a good way to apply some context to the situation we find ourselves in.
Or you could assume that you're mistaken about how often he brings it up compared to other factors.
And I meant money spent in total including wages and transfer fees because I have no reason to believe that he thinks only wages are important.