Richarlison

[Bishop]

Your talents are clearly wasted on a forum.

Was I wrong?

Had you never watched him before? If you had you would have the same expectations unless a player signing for Spurs deludes you from their actual abilities?

I used to be the mem multi screen football nerd. PL, La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and even the occasional Argentine Premiera and Brazilian Seria A along with the Libartadores. I've watched a LOT of football in my time.

 

[Bishop]

Before Ange, not after.

I'd say De Zerbi is the type of guy we should have gone for directly after Poch if we are analysing correctly, but yes I agree De Zerbi would have ultimately been a better hire than Ange although I respect the attempt with Ange. It was a ballsy move and if the man would have only just adapted to the calibre of player he had here his term may well have worked out better in the long run.

I don't think hiring Ange was a mistake per se, I'd say just like with Jose and Conte hiring him and then either having no intention of supporting them properly or understanding what they would need to be successful was the biggest issue. So as usual it comes down to the larger structure and the leadership (or lack of) methodology.

 

[tommysvr]

Was I wrong?

Had you never watched him before? If you had you would have the same expectations unless a player signing for Spurs deludes you from their actual abilities?

I used to be the mem multi screen football nerd. PL, La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and even the occasional Argentine Premiera and Brazilian Seria A along with the Libartadores. I've watched a LOT of football in my time.

I thought he was a decent but not remarkable signing. But there's many players I've been very excited to have sign only to be let down, and many who've not been interested in that have surprised me. I think all signings are such a toss up, and even more so when you've so often been the 5th or 6th best team trying to break into the top 2 or 3, so I choose not to ride the waves of transfers too much personally.

All power to people like you who have the knowledge and time/resources to watch players that closely before they come to Spurs (that might sound sarcastic, it's not meant that way.)

 

[robp135]

And we dont!

We have given 3x £200k contracts in the past year.

 

[SteveAWOL]

We have given 3x £200k contracts in the past year.

Would’ve proved better value to pay Kane £400k per week… if only he didn’t insist upon wanting to win league titles instead of battling relegation!

 

[Bishop]

We have given 3x £200k contracts in the past year.

£200K isn't what it once was. The proven elites are once again in double that.

 

[thfcsteff]

It wouldn't be replicated across a season because we haven't played a breadth of teams, the sample size is too small. You're doing that getting carried away thing again.

No.
You wish.
You're doing that 'zero to 60' thing again.
I mentioned a potential 'if' with a potential result: the only fact there is that the run of games we've had with DeZerbi place us on top 3 form. The rest is conjecture which might, or might not, be accurate. We'll never know will we!

De Zerbi is though the kind of manager we should have got in after Ange. I'll never change my opinion Ange needed to be fired, hiring poorly doesn't mean that the first action wasn't correct.

...yet you cannot stop mentioning his name. I didn't. You did. I actually don't care what you thought about him at this point because it means nothing. What means something is the fact that the bloke we got in was mediocrity personified in a manager, right down to talking about 'losing games' and we're 'not really a CL side'. Expectations set indeed. And a huge part of why we're here.

De Zerbi is exactly what we needed post Ange, more pragmatic but still with attacking intentions that suit the squad reasonably well and an understanding that a competent defence actually does matter and will save you more points than you lose.

Wasn't the knock on the previous guy that he would 'sort out the defence'? DeZerbi is a smart manager who knows that to get the best out of players you have to use them in their best lights and also make them feel a million bucks. I am delighted he has kept his powder dry too (he has proved me wrong with that).