K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Nayim
The day any team doesn't need a player like Kane there will be no football.
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Richarlison
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The day any team doesn't need a player like Kane there will be no football.
demotw
Espen Baardsen
You misunderstood my point, there are hundreds of teams yet over the last 20 years you can count the number of players with his skill set on 1 hand. But that’s ok, as there are other ways to get those skills onto the pitch by spreading those skills over several players.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Nayim
You make sound so simple, the evidence of our decline demonstrate that it's not that easy to do.
demotw
Espen Baardsen
Whats easier, trying to recreate Kane or being able to sign a player with all of his talents?
OR;
find a striker who can reach 20 goals a season
find some wide forwards/#10 who can play deeper with creativity
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Nayim
I would say recreating an other Kane is virtually impossible, as are signing anyone with his talents because we couldn't afford them and any club who had him would be crazy to sell him, the chances of doing the other two are slightly better but could be the same if we are relegated.
My original point was my thoughts on the way Kane's career here is questioned by our own supporters since he left. We benefited from the best years of his career, he dug us out of plenty of holes and papered over cracks in the team, cost us nothing and we recieved a decent fee from his sale. He wanted to win something and we couldn't do it and i feel he's aware he was part of that failure. I prefer to remember all the wonderful things he did for us and not try to pick holes in his time here.
Bishop
Les Ferdinand
I'm not even comparing to Harland. I'm comparing to what I think is the minimum standard. The guys we have know don't compare to what we've had had in the past not even including Kane.
Bishop
Les Ferdinand
I don't get the reference...
Bishop
Les Ferdinand
It's easy to decline when you consistently recruitment poorly, don't address weaknesses and pretend substandard players are good enough.
Bedfordspurs
Bert Smith
Which everyone tries
But most fail to do
Look at Liverpool with their recent massive outlay
They are now gonna have to replace Salah too
It’s an ongoing issue because great players are genuinely rarer now imo with the way plauers are being coached to death
paxtonwolf
Martin Peters
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Nayim
In the film of the TV comedy Fletch is picking the team and I think Godber says of a player " he can't shoot, pass or tackle" Fletch replies "he throws in well"
metalgear
Barry Daines
if he had half a football brain he'd take two touches
falls when he should stand, shoots when he should pass too
awful player and ever since he joined we've been on a steady decline
don't see what you guys see in him
Bishop
Les Ferdinand
Richarlison
At no point. In his time here has he been good enough but the litany of excuses and allowances are numerous. I get the idea that you want to support your players and even a degree of myopicness when it comes to evaluating your own players but jeez, he's been brick for the vast majority of his time here no point lying about it. Got him from a relegation battle and now...we are relegation battlers.
They like busy work. Why have technique when you can run around a lot to no avail?
At no point. In his time here has he been good enough but the litany of excuses and allowances are numerous. I get the idea that you want to support your players and even a degree of myopicness when it comes to evaluating your own players but jeez, he's been brick for the vast majority of his time here no point lying about it. Got him from a relegation battle and now...we are relegation battlers.
thfcsteff
Ricky Villa
Richarlison
They like busy work. Why have technique when you can run around a lot to no avail?
At no point. In his time here has he been good enough but the litany of excuses and allowances are numerous. I get the idea that you want to support your players and even a degree of myopicness when it comes to evaluating your own players but jeez, he's been brick for the vast majority of his time here no point lying about it. Got him from a relegation battle and now...we are relegation battlers.
You love a good bash of our players and your form is especially consistent with Richarlison.
Who would you have bought at the time?
Who would you buy now?
metalgear
Barry Daines
i would not have bought richarlison as a first team player not at that price - for the money would have gone for for a proven attacker AND back up from france or spain then. Its about the style of football and richarlison has never been a spurs players or striker - just look at the long list of names before him. you can see our standards slipping from then on.
around the same time , we bought udogie, bentancur and kulusevski - good standard and style that fits the exciting spurs attacking football style.
constantly falling over and crying for fouls - i am ashamed to call richarlison a spurs player. watch the brazil team they have no respect for him either - neymar paying him to remove a tattoo of his likeness, not passing to him on the pitch. Levy was probably bought into the prospect of "brazilllian striker" and it shows his ineptitude in football.
which EPL team has been and is fearful of Richy at everton?
thfcsteff
Ricky Villa
I disagree with much of what you've said here.
I do think we should've been buying top class forwards of the Kane and Son overall sphere, but equally recognise that those two are irreplaceable.
DeanoAustin
Jack Jull
Ah hang on. When we bought Richy, we had Kane, Son and Kulu across the front. He was brought in to battle with them.
It was far from our standards slipping. Prior to that, we were bringing in the likes of Janssen for much less money for that position. Richy has a lot of limitations, I think he's technically awful at this level, but he was PL proven and wasn't brought in as our main striker.
Bishop
Les Ferdinand
Richarlison isn't a good player. I've been consistent since the day we bought him because I watched a ton of this guy at Watford and then Everton. I knew it would play out like this because he is what he is. Do you not want to win? Do you not want to be successful? If you do why do you rate Richy and why would you want him playing for us? The man clearly isn't good enough.
In 2022 there are loads of preferable players to him. David, Ominshen (this was before the massive hype train), we could have been looking at a prospect Gonzalo Ramos, Saudi Sportswashing Machine bought Isak that very same summer a gamble yes but if you'd watched him for Sociedad he did look like he had the potential to breakthrough, Serhou Guirassy would have been a bit of a speculative gamble also but a wiser take then going for Richarlison a player we could already see if you had paid any attention to wasn't up to the standard required. If PL experience was a requirement then there was of course Toney.
I don't even begrudge the attempt truly, I just begrudge the stubbornness of keeping this guy for the following 4 years when we should have sold him after the very first season. There is nothing about his time here that has surprised me. Today I don't watch as much football as I used to (young children etc) so it's hard for me to really pick a name from around Europe like I used to be able to, but honestly I'd say almost anyone. Someone who can consistently control ball first time would be nice, someone with reasonable technique as well would be nice. It isn't difficult to improve in Richy, most PL teams have more competent strikers than him.
Muttley
Jermaine Jenas
I think the dilemma with Richi has always been whether he's a striker or a left forward. For me, he's unfortunately not ticking either box nowadays whereas when he was at Watford and Everton I thought he was a real nuisance on the left. He certainly doesn't look a stylistic fit for what we need based on his hold up play and ability to link play together. That first touch of his lets him down often.
I try to look at the positives though. The price tag isn't his fault and all he has ever done is give 100%. We also went through 2 seasons where we had written him off as the next Anderton or Lamela with a constant list of injuries. He was never available for team selection at the times we needed to. I'm really happy he's got himself through that phase.
We have to fix the striker situation for next season.