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I wish they would actually talk to people in sa. Last week it was reported 76% of admissions were not for covid. They were for other reasons. But when going into hospital are tested for covid. They tested positive. They are incidental.

Day before yesterday the chair person of the sa medical association reported on cnn that it is now 90% of admissions are incidental. She was also the person that discovered the variant when treating patients.

 
scaramanga said:
That's precisely my point.

The part of the equation that did actual harm to people was the trapping them indoors and spaffing all their money up the wall. That's the bit they should be angry with, not the part where some people they'll never meet had a party somewhere they'll never go
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This was specifically about having to ‘cancel Christmas’. I’m not saying I disagree with your viewpoint but I can understand why so many are upset. Ironically, how wonderfully British would it be that a government was taken down because we couldn’t share a Christmas sherry with Auntie Mavis.
 
Lilbaz said:
I wish they would actually talk to people in sa. Last week it was reported 76% of admissions were not for covid. They were for other reasons. But when going into hospital are tested for covid. They tested positive. They are incidental.

Day before yesterday the chair person of the sa medical association reported on cnn that it is now 90% of admissions are incidental. She was also the person that discovered the variant when treating patients.

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But if every hospital admission testing positive for covid, even if not the actual cause of admission, then has to be placed in an isolation ward, and if numbers are high enough that non-covid beds have to be given over to covid isolation cases, then even if the covid infection itself is non-incidental, the wider impact isn't. That's what health services are struggling with trying to predict.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
But if every hospital admission testing positive for covid, even if not the actual cause of admission, then has to be placed in an isolation ward, and if numbers are high enough that non-covid beds have to be given over to covid isolation cases, then even if the covid infection itself is non-incidental, the wider impact isn't. That's what health services are struggling with trying to predict.
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But the amount of people in hospital hasn't gone up.

They also only stay on average 2.8 days compared to 8.5 in previous waves. 70% don't even require oxygen.

If it is that mild and contagious, don't even bother seperating them. Just open the windows.
 
Lilbaz said:
But the amount of people in hospital hasn't gone up.

They also only stay on average 2.8 days compared to 8.5 in previous waves. 70% don't even require oxygen.

If it is that mild and contagious, don't even bother seperating them. Just open the windows.
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The point is, right now, whilst things are looking good in terms of hospitalisations, we don't yet know if spread amongst a more aged (yet largely vaccinated) population, will have a detrimental impact on the health service. It likely won't, but a few weeks of wfh and wearing masks is not a huge imposition if it helps keep things manageable whilst the impact of omicron is being modelled and assessed. I don't think we are at the stage just yet of mixing covid and non-covid patients in wards - it would take a brave hospital management to do that.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
The point is, right now, whilst things are looking good in terms of hospitalisations, we don't yet know if spread amongst a more aged (yet largely vaccinated) population, will have a detrimental impact on the health service. It likely won't, but a few weeks of wfh and wearing masks is not a huge imposition if it helps keep things manageable whilst the impact of omicron is being modelled and assessed. I don't think we are at the stage just yet of mixing covid and non-covid patients in wards - it would take a brave hospital management to do that.
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It's not a huge imposition on us. Pub owners seeing office xmas parties cancelled is a massive hit. It's the time of year that keeps them going.

Was talking more in sa. Poorer hospitals would struggle to keep people isolated from other wards. For the uk i said from the beginning have some hospitals covid free. Others and the nightingales use just for covid.
 
Lilbaz said:
Was talking more in sa. Poorer hospitals would struggle to keep people isolated from other wards. For the uk i said from the beginning have some hospitals covid free. Others and the nightingales use just for covid.
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The Nightingale Hospitals - I’d forgotten about those! Another master stroke; emergency hospitals with no one to staff them.
 
Hospital admissions stay low in sa. Guateng 73% of the population had some immunity (uk it's almost 100%). Many of the infected patients are there to give birth.

 
Cases plus positivity rates in South Africa down today, hopefully their Omicron wave will soon be on its way out and they won’t have a spate of hospitalisations or deaths in coming weeks.


 
markysimmo said:
Felt rough for 3 days, tested negative, woke up this morning feeling really brick and bingo a positive lateral flow test

Off to get a PCR test soon, really hope it’s just me who gets it as we had plans for next week, was off to Lapland UK so hoping the girls can still go
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Nightmare , hope you get well soon.

My boy has just done a couple lateral flows and both come back positive instantly. We are due away at Xmas so hopefully the whole house does not get it or Xmas is cancelled.

I’ve felt off this week myself but tested negative on them.
 
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The Covid zero fundamentalists are saying we'll have 1 millions new infections a day by next weekend. Covid will be over for good by the end January if that's the case!
 
Gutter Boy said:
The Covid zero fundamentalists are saying we'll have 1 millions new infections a day by next weekend. Covid will be over for good by the end January if that's the case!
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Unfortunately, if that’s the case, it’s likely the NHS will also have collapsed.
 
djp82 said:
Nightmare , hope you get well soon.

My boy has just done a couple lateral flows and both come back positive instantly. We are due away at Xmas so hopefully the whole house does not get it or Xmas is cancelled.

I’ve felt off this week myself but tested negative on them.
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Out of interest, why did you test your son and yourself?
 
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