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What are we missing?
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Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
great work
So the post about their wages and their said being lean may be true… but we will see thsi season
papaspur
Kasey Keller
We could've gotten away with that last season with the Europa Jr's Conference League playing the kids, albeit Europa is obviously something between Champions League and Conference... I don't think your star players will be complaining too much if they miss out on playing in the EL. But having CL means your top players want to be represented in that competition since most of them probably dreamt of playing on that stage. We actually need the depth to play in both the PL and the CL, ESPECIALLY in this condensed season.
So yeah, as @Bedfordspurs said, it's still too early to judge and there is a randomness factor with injuries/suspensions that we all have to contend with.
metalgear
Nayim
They've won more than us last 20 years.
metalgear
Nayim
How many decades more do we need to try?
glasgowspur
Nayim
No only the top teams with super strength squads win trophies. You must have dreamt this, three times.
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
Yep but your comment was factually wrong
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
Yep the player who controls the game tempo
City have de Bruyne
Arsenal have Odegard
United have penanades
Chelsea have…. Not sure but mount seems to be that man currently … Haivertz
Pool don’t really have that player I’d guess, maybe Thiago
But it’s a player who a keep or move the ball better than everyone else. That way you get the out ball and ball retention along with creativity
We have no one else like that and it’s hurting the team having to ask Kane to do that as well as get on the end of his own passes
papaspur
Kasey Keller
Maybe just one... I hope!
metalgear
Nayim
well they increased their spend last transfer window didn't they. also paid high for quality - jesus becoming top earner and zincheko third highest in the last one.
looks like we didn't want to break any records. big gulf in wages between richarlison and jesus, though we paid the higher transfer fee.
https://www.capology.com/club/tottenham/salaries/
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Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
We did break records… Rucharlison was our record fee. There record signing has gone on loan as he is toilet
Their previous left for free
metalgear
Nayim
my original post was about needing to pay more in WAGES which I think is different from TRANSFER FEES, especially from a player performance perspective. Well at least in my understanding in the private sector - you know the saying, you get what you pay for.
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
You said they had a clear out and were spending less in wages to be better. You actually talk about better wages per player
I’d argue that arsenal haven’t done that for some time. We will see if they finish above us this season of course but we have got much more for our money
You also talk about a trim squad which is toood because you acknowledge Their squad is paper thin
metalgear
Nayim
we should follow them
trim the squad down decisively
spend more on new players that increase quality. (e.g. Jesus and zinchenko - first team, higher wages and improves the squad immediately. Also, casemiro, antony for Man U.
the point is, not being competitive with wages is going to reduce our ability to attract quality.
decisively trimming the squad down - especially since the manager isn't going to use the fringe players anyway - is a great way of accumulating funds for better players.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
I think Paratici has been trying to trim the squad down the last couple of windows, the trouble is the players we’re looking to get rid of are on rudiculously high wages like Ndombele for example, so teams are reluctant to take that on for loans and the player’s not keen on moving for a pay cut.
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
Zichenko has barely played for them as he is injured a lot - 5 games out of 15 this season is pretty poor
We need to shift the ones on loan which is an issue unless you let them leave for free like arsenal had to do. That frees up money. And their signings were high paid expensive ones don’t forget
SpurMeUp
Jimmy Cantrell
Too many 'squad players' with not enough first team quality. Son, Kane, Kulu, Bentancur, Hojgberg, Dier, Romero are first team quality currently. It is the gaps outside this 7 that are our issue. With 3 of these 7 out today, we lack some quality. With all 7 fit there are only 3 'fill-in' players - the WBs and a CB.
Our 'squad players' are all good pros with various attributes and some could step up and become quality. But they don't have the same quality and confidence on the ball yet. Along our back 5 we are missing 2 wingbacks who'll stamp their authority on games. And another CB. Only 2 of the 5 are good enough, and that is where we are weakest.
In highdsight it was an awesome Jan window but wasn't a great summer transfer window. I wanted to Sess to kick on and become the player he promises to be, but the pressure on him is too much. Persic hasn't found his rhythm either. Lenglet is good going forwards but dithers defensively sometimes. But I'd stick with all 3, as they are the better players technically. Most of what is holding them up is confidence and rhythm. Bissouma too. Confidence and rhythm needed.
Our 'squad players' are all good pros with various attributes and some could step up and become quality. But they don't have the same quality and confidence on the ball yet. Along our back 5 we are missing 2 wingbacks who'll stamp their authority on games. And another CB. Only 2 of the 5 are good enough, and that is where we are weakest.
In highdsight it was an awesome Jan window but wasn't a great summer transfer window. I wanted to Sess to kick on and become the player he promises to be, but the pressure on him is too much. Persic hasn't found his rhythm either. Lenglet is good going forwards but dithers defensively sometimes. But I'd stick with all 3, as they are the better players technically. Most of what is holding them up is confidence and rhythm. Bissouma too. Confidence and rhythm needed.
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Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
He had the majority of what you suggest are his A team in the week and they were a disgrace
Manager has doubled down though and refused to work with what he has and its come back to bite him. That's on him
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