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George Hunt
I meant that we achieved better things in the fifty years post 1961 without being able to achieve league success - the UEFA Cups you mention, the FA Cups, all of them. None of those were ultimately able to prove a springboard for sustained league success, or even a single league title since 1961 - but we still celebrate them as significant additions to the history of our club, and the teams that won them as significant contributors to our story. However, to then say that those seasons were unable to break the spell but that this one great season (that will almost surely end trophyless) many years later has *definitely* concluded our tendency to be Spurs-y for all time is just...*really* premature, and isn't fair to teams of our past given that we won actual silverware and had other successful seasons without being able to break that particular curse.
We'll see. I know your views regarding Poch, and I respect them - but I disagree. I give him an awful lot of credit, and he's slowly but surely winning me over to the same extent that he won you over - but I'm not quite ready to go all in and proclaim him our Ferguson or anything like that *just* yet.
I don't really see what you're getting so red in the face over, to be honest. I've stated over in the Poch thread what my position is - the man is indubitably doing amazing things, and he's conclusively earned my trust and whatever time he needs. I've stated here that he *will* do great things. What is so surprising, though, about being hesitant to call him our Sir Alex?
Steff, mate -
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...there is a lot of weight to that label. Which is why I mean what I say when I state that only someone like *that* can change our history enough to wipe Spurs-y off the face of the earth once and for all. Poch is best-placed to be that man, in time. But he is not that man yet. And no one can feasibly claim him to be, *yet*.
'Spurs-y' is the most pathetic of phrases tome, a relatively 'new' term which someone apparently tried to force into an urban dictionary a few years ago. It is, as I understand it, designed to be an indication of a side that consistently blows it at the last.
Let me be clear about why I support Tottenham Hotspur mate.
"“The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It is nothing of the kind. The game is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom.”
I personally consider everything else a bonus. Now, IF you're telling me that 'Spurs-y' has now come to be a side that flirts with the Premiership title two seasons in a row and falls short in the last few games despite never actually having been top during either campaign (with the latter campaign having been a chair manufactured from nothing) then yes. Fine. 'sexy' if you wish. But I won't be using the term. Never have. Never will. So I suppose in order for your theory to hold weight, we have to accept the word 'Spurs-y'...which I won't mate.
All good. You don't have to proclaim him anything. I can tell you that having witnessed Fergie growing during that time with Utd, and seeing what Poch is doing at our club, I am HAPPY to proclaim him as such. The comparisons are bountiful and start off the pitch with the way the club is run.
You then went on to post all of SAF's achievements as 'proof' that Poch wasn't SAF 'yet'. With the greatest of respects, that was a cheap shot. Of course he isn't 'yet' confirmed as such because he doesn't have the history or years under his belt or trophies yet. But I believe we have the modern equivalent.
Here's a fact for you. Fergie joined Man Utd in Nov 1986 and didn't win his first trophy until may 1990. He quickly turned the culture of the club around, but some details still needed addressing. He can probably thank Mark Robbins for buying him a little time, as without that goal at Forest he was apparently facing the sack. Come to think of it, he can thank Lee Martin too!!! When you take a look at Fergie's first few years at Utd, he did fine work but it still wasn't as spectacular as what Poch has done with us in the same time frame.
Let's see what Poch can achieve next season...but I stick fairly behind my belief that he is our Fergie.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...it-really-take-ferguson-three-years-to-get-it