Lemonade Money
Steffen Freund
This. We're saying the 7 signings need time to adjust, so we go and get a manager who needs to as well!?
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This. We're saying the 7 signings need time to adjust, so we go and get a manager who needs to as well!?
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
Nezza
Ben Thatcher
If you define "success" as finishing in the top 4, then how many experienced PL managers have come into a new club and been successful? I can only really think of Benitez at Chelsea and Harry here.
They may be others but I wonder whether PL management experience is over-emphasised.
They may be others but I wonder whether PL management experience is over-emphasised.
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Re: New Manager Poll
That's more of an attack at AVB, than anything about Yakin, isn't it? You've already said that you don't know much about him. You are only judging Yakin off of the back of 2 games, not a great sample size.
That's more of an attack at AVB, than anything about Yakin, isn't it? You've already said that you don't know much about him. You are only judging Yakin off of the back of 2 games, not a great sample size.
Re: New Manager Poll
They lost 2-5 on aggregate to Chelsea in the semi finals of the EL last season after knocking us out. It was a fairly even game in Switzerland, but David Luiz got a winner in the 94th minute (Chelsea spawny you say?). It wasn't until the second half at Stamford Bridge they cracked. Basel also knocked out Solskjær's Molde in the CL 3rd qualifying round that season, so advantage Yakin
This season they beat Chelsea both home and away, but failed to progress in the CL due to drawing both games with bottom team Steaua Bucuresti.
They lost 2-5 on aggregate to Chelsea in the semi finals of the EL last season after knocking us out. It was a fairly even game in Switzerland, but David Luiz got a winner in the 94th minute (Chelsea spawny you say?). It wasn't until the second half at Stamford Bridge they cracked. Basel also knocked out Solskjær's Molde in the CL 3rd qualifying round that season, so advantage Yakin
This season they beat Chelsea both home and away, but failed to progress in the CL due to drawing both games with bottom team Steaua Bucuresti.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
Re: New Manager Poll
Unfortunately the 'brains' of the operation is Denis Bergkamp. I can't see him coming here.
Also they haven't got of the Champion's league group stage since De Boer was there and they've failed miserably each time they were moved into the Europa League.
Unfortunately the 'brains' of the operation is Denis Bergkamp. I can't see him coming here.
Also they haven't got of the Champion's league group stage since De Boer was there and they've failed miserably each time they were moved into the Europa League.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
Re: New Manager Poll
Didnt DeBoer and Bergkamp not go in there and rip everything up at Ajax youth and start again.
I admit i havent read Bergkamp's book but I've read a few article to that effect.
Didnt DeBoer and Bergkamp not go in there and rip everything up at Ajax youth and start again.
I admit i havent read Bergkamp's book but I've read a few article to that effect.
Nigeyman
Chris Armstrong
Re: New Manager Poll
not to enamoured by any of the choices tbh.....but like someone said if Tim-meh can work with levy then maybe see where we are after six months and see what managers are available...
voted sherwood....if he can work effectively with Baldini & Levy then great......its also the backroom that compliment a manager and I want to see how the new trio get on.........no harm seeing how they do for a bit.... what about heynckes from Bayern last year...couldn't he offer something still.
I can see the pull of De Boer but am beginning to lose faith that the Ajax/Barca possesion game is effective in the epl in terms of winning the damn thing - sure the other lot play some nice stuff but they have been barren for a few years - with the Epl it seems the most sucessful teams in the prem era have won it by quick direct passing and pressing followed by a devestating counter attacking strategy when they are a few goals up.........I think De Boer would be as much of a gamble as Sherwood.
not to enamoured by any of the choices tbh.....but like someone said if Tim-meh can work with levy then maybe see where we are after six months and see what managers are available...
voted sherwood....if he can work effectively with Baldini & Levy then great......its also the backroom that compliment a manager and I want to see how the new trio get on.........no harm seeing how they do for a bit.... what about heynckes from Bayern last year...couldn't he offer something still.
I can see the pull of De Boer but am beginning to lose faith that the Ajax/Barca possesion game is effective in the epl in terms of winning the damn thing - sure the other lot play some nice stuff but they have been barren for a few years - with the Epl it seems the most sucessful teams in the prem era have won it by quick direct passing and pressing followed by a devestating counter attacking strategy when they are a few goals up.........I think De Boer would be as much of a gamble as Sherwood.
Papercut
Jermaine Jenas
DublinSpur
Scott Parker
Re: New Manager Poll
Of the available options I chose Frank de Boer because he does look like the best fit on paper. But realistically it's always the luck of the draw as to whether a manager fits with the club... the players, the hierarchy and the fan expectations.
I'd also be happy to see a couple of the others get the job as a caretaker until summer if it meant we got a better long-term replacement for AVB. In particular, if we do have to wait until summer, I'd like to see Hoddle as interim manager. Yes there's the possibility of a Dalglish-type fiasco and that would be horrible. But football is about hope and glory... imagine what a rush it'd be for all us fans if Hoddle returned and it actually worked! Not saying I have high expectations of it happening, but isn't it worth the risk?
And as I say - only as a caretaker option, and only then if Levy is forced to wait until summer to bring in the man he wants. But with the understanding that if it all comes together, thumping the lesser sides 5-0 playing an attacking 3-5-2, while deploying flying wingers in a counter-attacking 4-5-1 against the bigger teams... and Hoddle finishes in the top two, that he gets a crack at the Champions League next season..
Again, I'm not saying I believe Hoddle will work this time around, I just don't think it's impossible. And if we have to wait six months anyway, then let's see if the dream can come true.
The one name not on the list, but jumps immediately to mind, is Jurgen Klinsmann. We'd definitely have to wait until after the World Cup to get him though. His international coaching record seems pretty decent, his players say he's great to work with, and he knows the club and the fan expectations. But would he want to come back to London? Apparently he's quite happy living in the States, and international management is a very different job to managing a team with ambitions on the premiership title. So there's no guarantees.
Interesting times though.
Of the available options I chose Frank de Boer because he does look like the best fit on paper. But realistically it's always the luck of the draw as to whether a manager fits with the club... the players, the hierarchy and the fan expectations.
I'd also be happy to see a couple of the others get the job as a caretaker until summer if it meant we got a better long-term replacement for AVB. In particular, if we do have to wait until summer, I'd like to see Hoddle as interim manager. Yes there's the possibility of a Dalglish-type fiasco and that would be horrible. But football is about hope and glory... imagine what a rush it'd be for all us fans if Hoddle returned and it actually worked! Not saying I have high expectations of it happening, but isn't it worth the risk?
And as I say - only as a caretaker option, and only then if Levy is forced to wait until summer to bring in the man he wants. But with the understanding that if it all comes together, thumping the lesser sides 5-0 playing an attacking 3-5-2, while deploying flying wingers in a counter-attacking 4-5-1 against the bigger teams... and Hoddle finishes in the top two, that he gets a crack at the Champions League next season..
Again, I'm not saying I believe Hoddle will work this time around, I just don't think it's impossible. And if we have to wait six months anyway, then let's see if the dream can come true.
The one name not on the list, but jumps immediately to mind, is Jurgen Klinsmann. We'd definitely have to wait until after the World Cup to get him though. His international coaching record seems pretty decent, his players say he's great to work with, and he knows the club and the fan expectations. But would he want to come back to London? Apparently he's quite happy living in the States, and international management is a very different job to managing a team with ambitions on the premiership title. So there's no guarantees.
Interesting times though.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Oh yeah? Can you elaborate on the tattoo thing.
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
well, when i say tattoo, i guess it was more "branding"
(tenuous Boer = farmer + my Verts/Vets typo link)
(tenuous Boer = farmer + my Verts/Vets typo link)
rosenthal
Sebastien Bassong
Re: New Manager Poll
It was a close call though, as Molde would have progressed if it weren't for a missed penalty kick in the last minute.
Basel didn't look anywhere near the side that faced Chelsea and Spurs later on.
What concern me a bit about Yakin and his Basel is that they aren't as dominating in the swiss league as you'd think,
do wonder if their performance against english teams might be a mix of them raising their game and the Premier League teams underestimate them.
As AVB learned this season, teams park the bus against Spurs at White Hart Lane - even Arsenal did.
There's no opportunity to surprise opponents and hit them on the break the way teams play us these days.
Yakin has impressed me the few times I've seen his side, also had a lot of respect for him as a player.
Basel also knocked out Solskjær's Molde in the CL 3rd qualifying round that season, so advantage Yakin
It was a close call though, as Molde would have progressed if it weren't for a missed penalty kick in the last minute.
Basel didn't look anywhere near the side that faced Chelsea and Spurs later on.
What concern me a bit about Yakin and his Basel is that they aren't as dominating in the swiss league as you'd think,
do wonder if their performance against english teams might be a mix of them raising their game and the Premier League teams underestimate them.
As AVB learned this season, teams park the bus against Spurs at White Hart Lane - even Arsenal did.
There's no opportunity to surprise opponents and hit them on the break the way teams play us these days.
Yakin has impressed me the few times I've seen his side, also had a lot of respect for him as a player.
Nigeyman
Chris Armstrong
you would have done better putting it on norfolk n chance running at aintree sometime soon.
Simon_B
Matthew Etherington
Re: New Manager Poll
Wouldn't want Sherwood and Solskjaer because they're unproven. Neither would I want Hoddle because he's been out of the game for too long and wasn't a succes the last time he was here.
Capello is a great manager but I think it will be even more boring football than under AVB and I really miss the amazing football we occasionally experienced under Redknapp.
Don't know enough about Yakin, Favre and Spalletti to pass judgement on them.
Bielsa is a big risk IMO, either it will be amazing or a disaster.
That leaves me with Laudrup and De Boer. Having followed Laudrup's career a lot, I'm not totally sold on him. It's also very unlikely he'll leave Swansea in the middle of the season.
Too bad Everton snapped up Martinez which would've been my preferred choice.
Wouldn't want Sherwood and Solskjaer because they're unproven. Neither would I want Hoddle because he's been out of the game for too long and wasn't a succes the last time he was here.
Capello is a great manager but I think it will be even more boring football than under AVB and I really miss the amazing football we occasionally experienced under Redknapp.
Don't know enough about Yakin, Favre and Spalletti to pass judgement on them.
Bielsa is a big risk IMO, either it will be amazing or a disaster.
That leaves me with Laudrup and De Boer. Having followed Laudrup's career a lot, I'm not totally sold on him. It's also very unlikely he'll leave Swansea in the middle of the season.
Too bad Everton snapped up Martinez which would've been my preferred choice.