New New DoF Poll (The Less Grease More Ethos Edition)

[markysimmo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655117009204690944

 

[AdamB]

Careful Googl-ing this guy if you're on a work laptop....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655561451094831112

 

[AdamB]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...technical-director-Lee-Dykes-senior-role.html

 

[markysimmo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655570295627890694

 

[Gutter Boy]

I bet his technical team love filming all those dykes videos

 

[DubSpur]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655570295627890694

Never heard of him but looking at Brentford's recruitment he seems to be doing a great job.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Never heard of him but looking at Brentford's recruitment he seems to be doing a great job.

Do they do anything though, or just implement Benham's algorithms?

 

[JerusalemMan]

Do they do anything though, or just implement Benham's algorithms?

That's certainly a part of what he does. The hope would be that his methodology translates well to a club a couple of steps higher.

https://archive.ph/q8o3t

 

[scaramanga]

Do they do anything though, or just implement Benham's algorithms?

Can he bring the algorithms with him?

 

[Gutter Boy]

Can he bring the algorithms with him?

Probably not - its intellectual property. Didn't Mitchell have to redo his 'black box' one when he moved from Soton to us?

 

[scaramanga]

Probably not - its intellectual property. Didn't Mitchell have to redo his 'black box' one when he moved from Soton to us?

Not sure, but he wouldn't have wiped his own memory and forgotten everything he knows about it.

 

[Lilbaz]

Probably not - its intellectual property. Didn't Mitchell have to redo his 'black box' one when he moved from Soton to us?

It wasn't his algorithm. Tony bloom got it from students from lancaster university. Benham worked for bloom at premier bet.

 

[Gutter Boy]

It wasn't his algorithm. Tony bloom got it from students from lancaster university. Benham worked for bloom at premier bet.

It should be open access then if it was based on publicly funded research

 

[Grays_1890]

It should be open access then if it was based on publicly funded research

I didnt think Unis in the UK were considered as publicallu funded? Dont Universities make pretty tight claims to research made under their umbrella, effectively owning all patents and research done by their students.

Certainly the case in the US




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[AdamB]

It should be open access then if it was based on publicly funded research

Not at all true

 

[Grays_1890]

https://theathletic.com/3029279/202...on-tony-bloom-matthew-benham-brentford/?amp=1

Interesting article on the set ups. Seems set ups have been replicated across the board from Brighton to Brentford, including the companies they own, how they recruited and also owning second clubs to shake and bake signings

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[Bedfordspurs]

https://theathletic.com/3029279/202...on-tony-bloom-matthew-benham-brentford/?amp=1

Interesting article on the set ups. Seems set ups have been replicated across the board from Brighton to Brentford, including the companies they own, how they recruited and also owning second clubs to shake and bake signings

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Best of frenemies
The owners don’t like each other
The High Performance pod with the Brentford’s Phil Dykes is well worth a listen to understand their philosophy and model

 

[Gutter Boy]

I didnt think Unis in the UK were considered as publicallu funded? Dont Universities make pretty tight claims to research made under their umbrella, effectively owning all patents and research done by their students.

Certainly the case in the US

They are publicly funded, but not public sector (they are technically charities). It comes through two quangos (OfS and UKRI), but it's public money.

It all changed a decade or so ago with a big policy shift called 'open access'. Now all findings and a lot of raw data needs to be made freely available (no publisher paywalls or embargos) - it's conditions of the funding

 

[Lilbaz]

They are publicly funded, but not public sector (they are technically charities). It comes through two quangos (OfS and UKRI), but it's public money.

It all changed a decade or so ago with a big policy shift called 'open access'. Now all findings and a lot of raw data needs to be made freely available (no publisher paywalls or embargos) - it's conditions of the funding

Then why was the astra zeneca vaccine not open access? It was originally developed by oxford university.

Edit - according to this students will usually own the ip of any work they produce. https://www.csd.org.uk/design-insight/who-owns-intellectual-property-design-students/

 

[Finney Is Back]

Probably not - it’s intellectual property. Didn't Mitchell have to redo his 'black box' one when he moved from Soton to us?

If I recall correctly Mitchell’s ‘black box’ turned out not to be an algorithm at all and it was only so in your mind GB.