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Nabil Bentaleb
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NaijaSpurs
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Yesterday he was listed as injured with no return date on:
http://www.physioroom.com/affiliate/common/syndicate_table.php
However it seems since Poch's recent announcement his name has been removed.
Personally I think it is a shame because the season before last at just 19 he was bossing the midfield in a passionate North London derby and was a first choice midfielder in a team that finished 5th. Now in comparison Tom Carroll at 24 has not come remotely close to holding down a first team place.
I fully back Poch but I must confess from where I sit this seems a strange decision
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
I can only assume that Bentaleb is being a bit of a 'bad apple' in training/around the club?
I hope that Poch's admission that those players aren't in his plans does not impact the bids that other clubs make for them.
I hope that Poch's admission that those players aren't in his plans does not impact the bids that other clubs make for them.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I'm not sure it's a bad attitude per se - all the reports have always been that he is the hardest trainer etc.
I wonder if it's more about him being too uncompromising - i.e. unwilling to compromise/be moulded for the good of the collective.
PSG have always been rumoured to be interested. I wonder if there's any millage in a swap for the Rabiot guy we've apparently been looking at for a while
metalgear
Nayim
I dont know what poch thinks, but i always saw bentaleb as a vanity player, ie. One that goes along making himself look good.
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I think this is more right and is the impression which you get from the outside looking in. Bentaleb not the sort to adjust his way of playing etc in order to fit into the team. He is a real talent though so hope we loan him out for a year so that his value can go up and perhaps he matures in that time. If we flog him, I trust Levy will get a decent sell-on clause
Personally, I think this means we need a new CM to act as cover fro Dembele
Lemonade Money
Steffen Freund
Maybe Levy said he'd support Poch in the transfer window, but we'd need to balance the books. So Poch may not ideally want to part with said players, but it's necessary to buy the squad members he deemed vital.
Other than Fazio I don't think we are actively pushing anyone out, just means that they're available if a good enough offer comes in and they might not get much playing time if they stay (unless they somehow change Poch's mind through their efforts in training).
Lemonade Money
Steffen Freund
If you publicly say they are not in your plans, you are basically telling them to do one. If we don't find buyers, they will definitely be loaned out.
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
Not surprised about this to be honest i said earlier this summer that we had too many ok players ( not the best though) as back up to the first picks, when we called on the bench last season it proved not good enough and it was obvious ( to me at least) that we needed better.
We have bought Wanyama in and i would think Poch will still be looking at other options as well.
We have bought Wanyama in and i would think Poch will still be looking at other options as well.
NaijaSpurs
Rafael Van Der Vaart
As we are in 4 competitions including the CL I would suggest Dembele, Dier, Bentaleb and Wanyama would be a solid quartet that a squad likes ours needs.
Amazingly Carroll is still here because I simply do not think he is remotely good enough.
i don't think there is much between Bentaleb/Carroll and Mason - arguably Carroll is the most technically gifted of the three and certainly the best passer of them but his defensive contribution/physicality probably holds him back. Mason/Bentaleb have more energy/are more physically imposing but i imagine it's a question of attitude which has ultimately seen Bentaleb lose out
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I see big differences.
At the moment Mason is clear in the lead of the three of them, with Bentaleb second and Carroll a distant third.
However in terms of potential, I see Bentaleb as up there not far behind Dier and Alli.
I'm not sure Carroll is a top flight player, certainly not in this country. He'd really benefit by doing a Samways and heading off to mid-table Spain or Italy.
If he had that kind of potential i doubt we'd be showing him the door - maybe the transfer fee we receive when he is sold and/or the stature of the buying club will give some indication as to whether you're close to the mark on that or not. Having signed a new contract last year we should really be looking for close to 20m-30m if he has anywhere near the level of potential of Dier/Alli, my guess is it'd be more in the 5m-10m region - which will reflect on him as being an ok prospect, which i certainly think he is.
Carroll would probably benefit from playing in a more technical league like Spain undoubtedly - his awareness/passing ability and technique are only held back by his slight stature, sadly for him and players of his kind in this country the football here is very unforgiving - hopefully he can over come that, i wouldn't put money on it though.
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indianspur
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Lots of good players have some sort of 'attitude'. I'm not sure it's a good idea to bomb out promising talents because they have shown an 'attitude'.
Who will be next out the door?what if a super talent like Marcus Edwards shows some attitude?
Who will be next out the door?what if a super talent like Marcus Edwards shows some attitude?
Yoof
Tony Parks
Weren't we trying to shift Lamela on last summer? I seem to recall him being close to joining one of the French clubs but ended up staying as we couldn't get Berahino.
i don't know if that was anymore than speculation/rumor - assuming it was true and that you're using this as a counter to my point about us not letting a big prospect go then id be inclined to respond that Lamela would have gone for a fair amount of money (reflecting his potential) whereas Bentaleb won't (reflecting his)