Flatter to deceive not in general - but when it matters, the big games ie semis or in this case knockout stage of the CL. Real Madrid didnt look great in the groups but when it comes to the games that matter they up their game. No Im not comparing us to them thats just an example. Losing seven semi finals must of been over a period of a decade or longer Im guessing? Thats a crazy stat, we need to rectify that. You're absolutely right about learning from our experience in the CL, Ive no doubt we will be stronger for that come next season assuming we are there.
And over the last decade or so - who are we to have expected more than Semis?
And over the last decade or so, what? 5 managers? 6? Should those 7 games even be considered as a running theme? I say no, but your view might be different.
Personally, I think a stat like that is basically meaningless. And yet people try to infer some greater weakness to this current team based upon it.
When you spell it out, how silly does that sound?
But this constant 'perspective' comment bugs me. I dont see anyone ranting that we should be winning this that or the other, simply those who are picking at the bits that have gone wrong. We have aspirations to win things, with our squad its a travesty that we have won nothing under Poch to date in what is his fourth season - and the reason that we havent is these small matters that people are bringing up and they are the difference between winning something and for the umpteempth season having nothing to show for our efforts. Its not perspective, noone is demanding anything but its the realism of what is required if we want to achieve what we believe we have the capability of doing....
There is a lot of comment, unsurprisingly since we lost (and, unsurprisingly, every time we lose) about things like this.
Its most often rather over the top in its approach, compared to its substance.
Mostly because some people get OTT and a bit dramatic after a loss and cant handle it, so they end up ranting without any real sense of place for their comments.
Not saying thats you, just simple observation of the board over time.
And this is why people talk of perspective. Look at our journey since Poch and Wednesdays loss is disappointing but the over all view is positive. Rant and rave because you are butthurt after losing a game we (by rights) should have won, forgetting all perspective, and you will see a fairly predictable few days on here unfold.
Anyway, I digress. I agree with you we have ambition to win things, no denying that. I agree with you our squad is capable of winning, no denying that. However, I take the view that "
its a travesty that we have won nothing under Poch" as completely lacking perspective. Now, perhaps, thats simply your choice of language prompting that response.
Were you to say "
its disappointing that we have won nothing under Poch" I wouldnt have an argument myself. It is disappointing, even though I dont expect us to have won something, Id have liked us to have won something.
But, to say "
its a travesty that we have won nothing under Poch" I have to take exception. It really isnt. We are building up to winning things, we are not at a level for it to have been a travesty that we havent.
This team is growing all the time, and getting better all the time, and yes - playing at a really good level right now. Were we at this level for 4 years? Maybe your comment would be more appropriate. The fact its taken us that long to reach this point? Sorry but that "perspective" word is the first that comes to mind.
but Aguero is playing for one of the best attacking team in the planet right now, a team that opens up opponents and creates chances at will, and yet he is behind Harry in the goalscoring charts iirc
