Mighty Spurs vs. Emirates Marketing Project

[glorygloryeze]

I'm not stopping you slapping yourself or whoever on the back. I'm ecstatic with win Sunday! But its history!
I want more wins! So I'm personally focusing on and looking forward to WBA away now. Wondering will when Dembele will be back, hows is Kane getting on etc

Who is this shaney, sound like a very level headed lad and long time Spurs fan? (edit just been answered above)

Fair enough, it is history as you say. I'm sure Poch is taking a similar attitude.
But how about you measure your reactions a bit? After we lost to Monaco you wailed like a banshee (as though we'd played totally brick); we then beat Sunderland (missing a few it has to be said) and you wailed "it's only Sunderland" and "let's see how Wanyama/the team do vs City".
We've beaten City - yes we haven't exactly won the league - and now you're saying "it's history - on to the next game".

How about when we lose or when we win and don't play dazzling footy or when we get a gritty draw against a top 4/5/6 rival YOU treat it similarly, i.e. "oh well, on to the next game"?

 

[StephenH]

Fair enough, it is history as you say. I'm sure Poch is taking a similar attitude.
But how about you measure your reactions a bit? After we lost to Monaco you wailed like a banshee (as though we'd played totally brick); we then beat Sunderland (missing a few it has to be said) and you wailed "it's only Sunderland" and "let's see how Wanyama/the team do vs City".
We've beaten City - yes we haven't exactly won the league - and now you're saying "it's history - on to the next game".

How about when we lose or when we win and don't play dazzling footy or when we get a gritty draw against a top 4/5/6 rival YOU treat it similarly, i.e. "oh well, on to the next game"?

"oh well, on to the next game" What else can you say?
Shame about Monaco lads "now on to the Sunderland".
Well done on Sunday "now on to WBA".

Monaco - I was less than pleased with choice of Wembley for any of our games, so that did not help my mood/"wailing".
Sunderland - we made hard work of that.
Moscow - good away win
Wanyama - brilliant on Sunday.

You are only as good as your last result. Harsh but true.

But always - win loose or draw - move on.

 

[Jurgen the German]

This is a erection inducing win. It is great to continue our winning run against ManCity. We have now beaten them for the 3rd consecutive match in the league. We also managed to keep the clean sheet for the first time in 12 matches against them. More importantly, we have moved closer to the first place in the league. Ofcourse, it is still too early in the season. But this will give us a lof of confidence to fight for the league title again this season.

Credit to Rose for forcing the own goal and Alli for getting our crucial second goal. It was a good cross from Rose that forced panic in the ManCity defence. I think ManCity never recovered from conceding the own goal so early in the match. Well done to Son for creating the second goal for Alli. It was an inch perfect pass to Alli who took the goal well. Too bad we couldn't get the magical third goal to kill the game off. We should have scored the penalty in the second half. Not sure why Lamela wanted to take the penalty as he is not a regular goal scorer. Should have let it to Son. Maybe after seeing Bravo helping Chile beat Argentina on penalties in the Copa American final, Lamela wanted to try his luck but failed to beat the goalie.

I think we won this match in midfield. Our midfield did well to stop ManCity from controlling the match. Well done to Wanyama and Sissoko for this. Thought Wanyama had his best match for us. Was worried when he got the yellow card in the first half. But he managed to avoid getting himself in trouble after that. Eriksen too had a good game but was really disappointed when he wasted yet another free kick in dangerous situation. He should have at least forced the goalie into making the save but his free kick went off target.

Well done to our defence for keeping another clean sheet. It was great to get our first clean sheet against ManCity in 12 matches. Credit to Vertonghen, Alderweireld and Lloris for giving their best to stop ManCity. Lloris made at least 2 crucial saves to keep out ManCity. Amazingly, we have not conceded any goal from open play in the league this season. Hope our defence will keep on improving.

It is always a great feeling to beat our main rivals and move up the league table. Hope this win will give us the much needed confidence and hunger to go all the way to win the league title this season !

5 paragraphs and barely a mention or praise of Lamela being our most creative player. Sort it out.

 

[Jurgen the German]

I always felt the benefits of that night would be long-term. Short-term, it was disastrous as it snuffed out any last hopes (which would've been academic anyhow given Leicester's run)...but I had not seen a Spurs side fight like that since Robbo days, and in fairness even they didn't ruck it like we did that night. Reminded me of early Fergie man U getting their aggression out and then honing it. In fact, I think the similarities have been there for a while and are now becoming virtually impossible to ignore. We have a few players now who, if they were on other sides, would aggravate the bricke out of me. Danny can be a right clam, Dele likes a niggle, Victor isn't short of a strong challenge, Erik commits small fouls to halt play when he loses possession high-up the pitch, all things we've quietly worked into our game. Blending that with verbal reserve and stoicism is a masterstroke from Poch. It has emancipated them to believe they can and will and should every single game. And I think Chelski was the final very, very important life lesson for us...

Remains to be seen but I personally felt we went too far that night. I was all for being aggressive and not backing down, but Chelsea wanted a nasty, niggly game and to be fair we gave it to them. We completely lost our composure in the 2nd half when the game was still ours for the taking.

It appears we have got it out of our system now but there can't be a repeat of what happened that night, we can't afford to lose key players due to lengthy suspensions again.

I think we showed we aren't a push over, but we also need to remember where the line is.

 

[StephenH]

5 paragraphs and barely a mention or praise of Lamela being our most creative player. Sort it out.

Lemala is so hard to love - brilliant one minute - then ............well you know what I mean.

 

[glorygloryeze]

There was a poster who turned up literally minutes after the Saudi Sportswashing Machine 5-1 game last season having made zero posts from October onward - spent all last summer and the early part of the season moaning and then done the same this summer and now he hasn't posted for a couple of weeks - I don't know whether people like that are just trolls or are just depressives who aren't interested in actually enjoying the good times, strange

Yeah, i think i know who you mean - and guess what? Not posted here since the Emirates Marketing Project win as well....

 

[glorygloryeze]

Remains to be seen but I personally felt we went too far that night. I was all for being aggressive and not backing down, but Chelsea wanted a nasty, niggly game and to be fair we gave it to them. We completely lost our composure in the 2nd half when the game was still ours for the taking.

It appears we have got it out of our system now but there can't be a repeat of what happened that night, we can't afford to lose key players due to lengthy suspensions again.

I think we showed we aren't a push over, but we also need to remember where the line is.

I'm not sure that is true actually; the niggly fouls etc were happening BEFORE we went 2-0 up and it wasn't the reason we let the lead slip; that was more to do with fundamental football/tactical reasons. We were tiring in the second half, had less pacy options from the bench (compared to now), didn't have Alli to help in the aggression and most importantly Chelski had made a habit of coming from behind to score late equalisers at home ever since Jose had gone.

I disagree that we 'lost the game because of our composure' but i see why people say/think it.
Put it this way; our letting Chelski back in tactically to me was not as bad as doing the same vs Arsenal at home with them having ten men. As i say, i think it was more to do with football/tactical reasons rather than "too much aggression."

 

[Jurgen the German]

I'm not sure that is true actually; the niggly fouls etc were happening BEFORE we went 2-0 up and it wasn't the reason we let the lead slip; that was more to do with fundamental football/tactical reasons. We were tiring in the second half, had less pacy options from the bench (compared to now), didn't have Alli to help in the aggression and most importantly Chelski had made a habit of coming from behind to score late equalisers at home ever since Jose had gone.

I disagree that we 'lost the game because of our composure' but i see why people say/think it.
Put it this way; our letting Chelski back in tactically to me was not as bad as doing the same vs Arsenal at home with them having ten men. As i say, i think it was more to do with football/tactical reasons rather than "too much aggression."

Granted but the really bad tackles from Dier for example IIRC came after they scored. Even Kane was getting involved.

Maybe it was wrong to cite it as the only reason but it was a big factor IMO to us dropping points, which then led to the capitulations in the following games.

 

[glorygloryeze]

Granted but the really bad tackles from Dier for example IIRC came after they scored. Even Kane was getting involved.

Maybe it was wrong to cite it as the only reason but it was a big factor IMO to us dropping points, which then led to the capitulations in the following games.

I think missing Alli and Dembele (plus the title chase being over) were far bigger reasons imo

 

[Jurgen the German]

I think missing Alli and Dembele (plus the title chase being over) were far bigger reasons imo

And Dembele's suspension was the result of the Chelsea game.

 

[Bullet]

Granted but the really bad tackles from Dier for example IIRC came after they scored. Even Kane was getting involved.

Maybe it was wrong to cite it as the only reason but it was a big factor IMO to us dropping points, which then led to the capitulations in the following games.

Agreed, we could have just passed them to death, run the game into the corners, slowed it down... but we focussed on hacking at them, lost our shape, diving in, charging about like headless chickens. I just wanted us to regroup, soak it up, pass it around, dull them down, but we fired them right up

 

[parklane1]

Remains to be seen but I personally felt we went too far that night. I was all for being aggressive and not backing down, but Chelsea wanted a nasty, niggly game and to be fair we gave it to them. We completely lost our composure in the 2nd half when the game was still ours for the taking.

It appears we have got it out of our system now but there can't be a repeat of what happened that night, we can't afford to lose key players due to lengthy suspensions again.

I think we showed we aren't a push over, but we also need to remember where the line is.

Said pretty much the same thing at the time and it fell on deaf ears for many who were so full of the " great to see us kick the Chelski scum".

There is nothing wrong with controlled aggression but we lost the plot and with it went our composure, I am sure that Poch had words with them after the game and i doubt/hope we never see it again.

 

[StephenH]

That was the beginning of one mother of a balloon popping month!

Sundays result did have a great medicinal effect!

 

[parklane1]

You may be able to answer this as I'm not clear what a dribble is in these stats, is pushing a ball past a player then running after it a dribble? I don't think it is to me it's going round your opponent while in control of the ball, which Stones and Son did, stumbling through a tackle is not dribbling.

But those who make up these scenarios believe it makes them important to those who think stats are the beginning and end of it. But to answer you question no its not a dribble.

 

[glorygloryeze]

And Dembele's suspension was the result of the Chelsea game.

Yeah, and Alli was already out so it didn't help.
Point being the Chelski game alone wasn't the reason why we 'capitulated' in the final two games.
I think the mental let-down that for all our efforts after the likes of Swansea had already bent over for Leicester we were to fail in vain was the bigger factor.
In fact we had already confirmed our highest ever PL finish (yes it should have been higher) but this 'lost the league because we lost our composure' is an easy narrative that we are allowing to be perpetuated.

 

[Lemonade Money]

Not this gonad*s again. If we had won against Chelsea, and won the last two games, we would have finished on 78 points. Leicester finished with 81 points.

Personally, kicking the brick out of Chelsea was a highlight of the season, and a marker to everyone that this Spurs team won't get rolled over.

 

[metalgear]

What was close about it?

Verts won the ball and Aguero went over his foot afterwards. I can't see how that close other than the fact a player went down in the area after being tackled

ref can't call it unless he or the linesman sees it. i think that was impossible to tell in real time.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

ref can't call it unless he or the linesman sees it. i think that was impossible to tell in real time.

I watched it and never thought it was w pen I'm real time

 

[metalgear]

I watched it and never thought it was w pen I'm real time

thats a big difference, knowing when and what to look out for.
at that time i thought verts had it covered but aguero somehow manages to get there faster.

 

[mudshark]

Not this cobblers again. If we had won against Chelsea, and won the last two games, we would have finished on 78 points. Leicester finished with 81 points.

Personally, kicking the brick out of Chelsea was a highlight of the season, and a marker to everyone that this Spurs team won't get rolled over.

That's fair enough, although what can't be quantified is how Leicester might have been affected if we'd managed to keep up the pressure all the way.