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what has happened to the transfer section?

Gutter Boy said:
The problem seems to be more lack of creativity with options, rather than decision-making. It would be nice to have someone with knowledge of a broader range of leagues than the current lot seem to have.

Pleat's specialism is English lower leagues. Sherwood covers English youth football. Rosenthal is the most internationally reputable: he sorted the Berbatov from BL deal for us and apparently 'discovered' Bosingwa, though he did once say: "Years ago I watched a young player and didn't think he would make it big. He was Kaka".
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I disagree to an extent I think we have a good mix, of old school values brought to the table, maybe by people like Pleat and Rosenthal, to someone a bit younger but still English in Sherwood, through to AVB, Freund and then the back-room staff that have largely been recruited from Portugal.

We have gone after some interesting targets. We were in for Oscar, before Chelsea came calling. I think Holtby and Vertonghen were fairly creative solutions. I think Holtby infact is an absolute master-stroke as a very much VDV like player who was available very cheaply and who is in his early 20s.

I do think Levy is still looking for someone to complete the team. Weren't we trying to convince the Roma DOF to come? I think we may see a move to install a new DOF/technical director who will probably come from the continent.

I think one of the reasons why AVB got the job is supposed to be that he impressed Levy with this big scouting list he'd compiled during his year out the game. The fact that we've struggled to get some of the names on it is largely down to the expense in acquiring some of these players versus the increased 'unknown' quantity of young foreign players who have often been playing in leagues inferior to the Premiership.

From the links it even sounds like we looked at Ganso and Gaston Ramirez as potential play-makers, but probably decided that the money needed to buy these players versus the risk they represented just wasn't worthwhile doing. Ramirez has ended up doing well, but I wouldn't say he has been outstanding and what did Southampton pay for him, something like £13m? By contrast we got Holtby for, what, £1.5m? To me that's creative thinking in the transfer market and playing it like a pro! Even if Holtby ends up flopping we will sell him at a profit and move onto someone else.

Buying players in the Premiership makes sense as we know what they can do. Look at Dembele, he was a ready-made beast and he had a release clause that made the deal an attractive one financially. Why go foreign and all creative when you can sign someone that has been tearing it up in your own league for a reasonable sum?
 
I think at 8m he would have been a terrific deal, a very astute purchase but if we get him in it'd be for 15m+ and then comes the added pressures of his pricetag, being at a club competing at a higher level. I think he's the type of player we should have bought, but I think we're a bit late getting him in now.
 
spurspinter1 said:
I think at 8m he would have been a terrific deal, a very astute purchase but if we get him in it'd be for 15m+ and then comes the added pressures of his pricetag, being at a club competing at a higher level. I think he's the type of player we should have bought, but I think we're a bit late getting him in now.
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yeah big problem. At 8 mill he has scored 15 goals and he is getting the plaudits and looks like a bargain. However there has been no pressure on him

if he comes to Spurs for 15 mill plus as you say , but if Villa manage to stay up they are under no pressure to sell so imo it will take a 20 mill plus offer for them to consider letting him go, and at that kind of price i would steer well clear. Not because i dont think he is good enough, but the pressure will be immense to live up to that kind of pricetag

i think weve made enough 'Bent' mistakes already.....D Bent, D Bentley. No more thanks
 
onlyme said:
Why not? His form is a bit up and down but so has Villa's.
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I don't see anything there other then another Bent. Plus Benteke is offside more often then our currently inept forwards.


I don't see anything special there.
 
raboner said:
He's got the best scoring rate of any of our most recent strikers.. Was severely underrated around here.
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Berbatov would disagree.


Don't think he was that underrated, it's more a showing of our shockingly poor recent record in regards to buying a decent striker.
 
indianspur said:
good enough for any team outside the top 7 or 8
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Not really - good enough for anywhere across the PL as his career stats strongly suggest (compared to similar 'Top 5' equivalent strikers - i.e. Welbeck, Hernandez, Defoe, Adebayor, Giroud, Dzeko, etc.)

For some reason number of our fans saw him as sacpegoat during the 2/8 debacale, in addition to the utterly unprofessional managerial treatment.
 
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Benteke is a beast - comparing him to Bent is rediculous, the reason why he played at the begining of the season was BEnt offers nothign but the occasional goal.

Benteke is giving Lukaku a run for his money in the Belgium team. Perfect player for us - can not think of any better achievable
 
Yeah don't think he's similar to Bent as a player.

We need to find the next Benteke/Lukaku. Boat has sailed on both of them unless we want to spend ridiculous money. I'd just love us to have a young striker who is eager, willing to learn and looks to have the potential to develop in to something special. It's a bit annoying that we keep on spending fairly large amounts of money on 27/28/29 year olds who aren't quite the real deal but kind of suffice. A gamble on a youngster is needed as I don't see us having the financial muscle to buy the real deal in terms of strikers.
 
ArcspacE said:
Not really - good enough for anywhere across the PL as his career stats strongly suggest (compared to similar 'Top 5' equivalent strikers - i.e. Welbeck, Hernandez, Defoe, Adebayor, Giroud, Dzeko, etc.)

For some reason number of our fans saw him as sacpegoat during the 2/8 debacale, in addition to the utterly unprofessional managerial treatment.
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if Bent is so good why havent Chelsea, Arse, Emirates Marketing Project, Man Utd, Liverpool, Everton tried to buy him??? Arse need a goalscorer, Chelsea needed back up to Torres, play one up front which we are told is the ideal situation for Bent. City could have signed him instead of Dzeko. What do you see that almost every decent manager/team cannot?
 
r-u-s-x said:
Benteke is a beast - comparing him to Bent is rediculous, the reason why he played at the begining of the season was BEnt offers nothign but the occasional goal.

Benteke is giving Lukaku a run for his money in the Belgium team. Perfect player for us - can not think of any better achievable
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the only comparisons being made between Benteke and Bent is just in the similarities with their names and the fact that in Tottenham's case we could end up paying more than he is worth like we did for Bent. Remember Bent is our most expensive striker signing EVER, and we paid 16 mill back in 2007!! Benteke is likely to cost 20 mill plus and i think a lot here would say that is a huge risk to take
 
indianspur said:
if Bent is so good why havent Chelsea, Arse, Emirates Marketing Project, Man Utd, Liverpool, Everton tried to buy him??? Arse need a goalscorer, Chelsea needed back up to Torres, play one up front which we are told is the ideal situation for Bent. City could have signed him instead of Dzeko. What do you see that almost every decent manager/team cannot?
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Because they can afford the next level of striker - and Bent would have cost extra due to the fact he's English. Plus we don't know for a fact they haven't tried
 
Bent is a very lucky finisher... Watch a comp of his goals and notice how many drop to him after a rebound or whatever, how many he scuffs and still go in, totally mibricks or go through the goalkeepers legs..
 
spurspinter1 said:
I think at 8m he would have been a terrific deal, a very astute purchase but if we get him in it'd be for 15m+ and then comes the added pressures of his pricetag, being at a club competing at a higher level. I think he's the type of player we should have bought, but I think we're a bit late getting him in now.
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Reminds me of jimmy floyd hasslebank when he was at leeds but then he went off to chelsea and carried on scoring. Think this lad could do the same.
 
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