Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
Nah Tesco
Was a huge customer of there’s so I was guest of honour for their CEO at that game
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Welcome Ange: To Dare is to Didgeridoo
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Was a huge customer of there’s so I was guest of honour for their CEO at that game
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
I agree (and it was my experience on Saturday).
You'll find all the evidence you need on social media...that's where the fans you complain of eat.
Just stay off it as all you are doing is extending your matchday experience
Agree, the counter argument that 'if our results were reversed no one would be saying anything' doesn't stack up, because the whole point is that as the coach goes further along in a season the players become more comfortable with the coach's system and what he is asking and results and performances pick up, not regress - see Poch at Chelsea.
That being said, it is his first season in the most competitive league in the world and we will still likely finish 5th which would be a very good starting point. Also last night he showed he can adapt his tactics and not be so naive, that was encouraging (along with Dragusin who I really think should have been utilised more this season). But there is a lot of work to be done, both recruitment wise and coaching wise and it's not as simple an equation as give Ange more time = Success......
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
I’m getting the sense with Ange that he may be a little out of his depth. Which is not to say he won’t grow into the role or anything but he keeps spouting as if he knows the secrets to success and we just need to listen and follow. Fact is, he’s completely unproven at this level. Yeah he’s won trophies in Australia, Japan and Scotland but this is light years away from that.
Getting involved with a fan like that last night, digging out the support, some of the performances, tactics and decisions in recent months…those things don’t point to the Messianic figure he seems to paint himself as.
Ange has had a good first season on the whole. Not spectacular. Not hugely successful. But good. Better than expected. He should focus on the things he can control to do even better next year and make himself a better manager.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Spot on mate, as per your other post.
My hope is that the madness of the last 48hrs subsides and people get ferociously behind Ange this summer and next season and don't hold this petty child like grudge about last night.
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glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Does he actually paint himself as a messiah though?
However, i agree with the general gist of your post though
lurker of old
Wilson Palacios
I’m getting the sense with Ange that he may be a little out of his depth.
Where does he paint himself as the Messiah? He just wants to win and isn't interested in anything else. If we end up 5th or 6th in our first season without Kane, and without a CF for much of the season, he will have done really well, imho. We have great defenders, but hardly a title winning attack, the mismatch is pretty extreme.
Where does he paint himself as the Messiah? He just wants to win and isn't interested in anything else. If we end up 5th or 6th in our first season without Kane, and without a CF for much of the season, he will have done really well, imho. We have great defenders, but hardly a title winning attack, the mismatch is pretty extreme.
He doesn't ever, he says he has a way of playing and he's committed to it, to the end
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
We had plenty of other games to win that would have put us in a better position than we found ourselves in. We didn’t even compete in many of those games. Sorry I know the players wanted 4th but you can’t blame the fans for being somewhat happy about the outcome of the game.
Mikey10
John Lacy
He does a bit.
All those comments about not worrying too much about conceding from set-pieces, don’t stress about CL qualification, trust the process, suggest he thinks he’s operating at a different level to the mere mortals who surround him.
Not necessarily a bad thing in a manager, but there’s definitely a bit of a messiah complex going on imo…
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Indeed it's as though people think we lost 4th spot only because of last night and that the fans had the same 'loser mentality' when we played Saudi Sportswashing Machine, Arsenal, Liverpool, Fulham, Fooking Chelsea etc etc
Mikey10
John Lacy
Should have put in half the effort and guile they showed last night in a couple of other games and they’d be home and hosed.
The manager also could have adapted his system to the players he actually has at his disposal earlier than the penultimate game, and prior to us losing 5 out of 6.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
They’re two points behind Emirates Marketing Project. If we had won or drawn it would have been in Arsenal’s hands. How do you not understand that? Both teams play at home and yes anything can happen but you would put money on both teams winning. You’d be the happiest person in the world if you swap Arsenal for Liverpool in this situation right now and honestly it’s getting a bit grating seeing other fans getting on their high horses about us being happy that we hurt our rivals chances. You truly don’t understand that but you’d be all for us throwing the game if it was Liverpool?
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Everybody understands the rival impact, nobody has an issue with laughing at Arsenal AFTER the game
My issue (I won't speak for others) is fudging cheering the opposition, in game, in our stadium .. can you not understand that?
Craig_J
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Exactly. Pretty much driven to the point of being desensited towards it happening again.
Can’t blame anyone for wanting that kind of showing when it’s actually convenient.
His job is to get us into a position where we have something on the line.
Craig_J
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Sorry Ange it won’t happen again
It will blow over very quickly IMO. Like both normal news and sports news, this was the big story of the week and like any story by the following week there will be something new replacing it.
Come Sunday our fans will be united in supporting the team in securing 5th place, and then back to the usual focus on what incomings and outgoings we have and how bad a chairman Levy is for not delivering Mbappe et al to us. In a weeks time I don't see there being any mention of last nights game, other than perhaps some Goon fans still crying about it.....
It was a weird set of circumstances last night. If we won I was happy but sad. If we had lost I would have been sad but happy.
The manager can't be expected to get his head around that. If you had offered me 5th at the start of the season after losing the best striker we've had in 50 years and one of the best players in the history of this country has ever produced I would have ripped your arm off.
His quote is a good one. He is saying he wants to change our focus. And I know it's what I always say... Because it's true...but because of teflon Dan leading us for a quarter of a century of failure we have become...well some of us. Victims of Stockholm syndrome. We expect failure and tolerate it. He is saying he wants to change that. And he is saying he can do it.
I wanted to win last night because we had the chance to get 4th. But I respect other opinions. It's always been about the 2nd season onwards with Ange. We have to give him at least 4 years. The football when it works is spectacular at times. It's fudging annoying when we play from the back and have to pass it into the stands. But this is a personell problem. Not a system.
Levy must go before Ange goes.
The manager can't be expected to get his head around that. If you had offered me 5th at the start of the season after losing the best striker we've had in 50 years and one of the best players in the history of this country has ever produced I would have ripped your arm off.
His quote is a good one. He is saying he wants to change our focus. And I know it's what I always say... Because it's true...but because of teflon Dan leading us for a quarter of a century of failure we have become...well some of us. Victims of Stockholm syndrome. We expect failure and tolerate it. He is saying he wants to change that. And he is saying he can do it.
I wanted to win last night because we had the chance to get 4th. But I respect other opinions. It's always been about the 2nd season onwards with Ange. We have to give him at least 4 years. The football when it works is spectacular at times. It's fudging annoying when we play from the back and have to pass it into the stands. But this is a personell problem. Not a system.
Levy must go before Ange goes.
Think people are forgetting ange's job is on the line. He massively wants to be successful with us. Our own wanting us to lose must be a bit hurtful. Especially when we had a chance to get cl football.
So to the fans saying he should understand how they feel. Maybe try and understand how he feels.
So to the fans saying he should understand how they feel. Maybe try and understand how he feels.