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Welcome Ange: To Dare is to Didgeridoo
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Nayim
Our manager isn't happy we lost. Good.
It was a win win for the fans, beat city arsenal win the PL we may get CL, lose and CL is gone but we can console ourselves with arsenal not winning the PL. Very unusual for us fans to be in a win win situation, usually for Spurs fans it lose lose.
Mountains out of molehills.
A lot of points from last night's game are being lost because the focus is on the fan reaction.
We matched city last night, we played good football, pressed well and looked like we had a lot of our intensity back.
Yes city were possibly feeling the pressure, but then city have a history of being relentless at this time of the year. Also we were under pressure, CL qualification was up for grabs, there was a hell of a lot of chatter around our players about how we play/not play because of the arsenal position.
We could have won that game last night, and no one could say we would not have been worthy winners.
All of that without Udogie, Bissouma, Richie, with VDV out of position and dragu making his debut.
That is what we should focusing on, not some distractions about fans.
It was a win win for the fans, beat city arsenal win the PL we may get CL, lose and CL is gone but we can console ourselves with arsenal not winning the PL. Very unusual for us fans to be in a win win situation, usually for Spurs fans it lose lose.
Mountains out of molehills.
A lot of points from last night's game are being lost because the focus is on the fan reaction.
We matched city last night, we played good football, pressed well and looked like we had a lot of our intensity back.
Yes city were possibly feeling the pressure, but then city have a history of being relentless at this time of the year. Also we were under pressure, CL qualification was up for grabs, there was a hell of a lot of chatter around our players about how we play/not play because of the arsenal position.
We could have won that game last night, and no one could say we would not have been worthy winners.
All of that without Udogie, Bissouma, Richie, with VDV out of position and dragu making his debut.
That is what we should focusing on, not some distractions about fans.
Conte’s rant ended with him taking a flight to Italy never to return. Ange said it’s on him to change the mentality around the club. Slight difference.
Ange is right, and Spurs fans need to take a deep look at themselves, last night was fudging embarrassing.
Disclaimer - Let's not get into the "who is a better fan" brick. I'm not policing if people are fans, I'm calling out people's fudging mentality and the fact that Spurs fans will clearly trade our club success because "poor me, my rival will give me some banter" (all the BS about "you don't know what its like to live/work with Scum fans)
Lat night our players gave everything, our manager gave everything and City never dominated any significant piece of the game (first 45 mins was probably the best I've seen us play), and when our players needed us, half the fudging stadium was cheering on City's results .. I was there, it wasn't some randoms, it wasn't some inconsequential percentage, it was a lot of fudging people.
If you want to laugh/cheer after the game or outside at a pub, all good, I get it, today it's funny the Scum won't get brick .. at OUR fudging stadium, shameful. And people know it, hence suddenly it's not last night, it was the other bad games .. no, it was last night at the stadium ..
15+ years of fans saying the club/team bottles it, last night our fans bottled it ..
Disclaimer - Let's not get into the "who is a better fan" brick. I'm not policing if people are fans, I'm calling out people's fudging mentality and the fact that Spurs fans will clearly trade our club success because "poor me, my rival will give me some banter" (all the BS about "you don't know what its like to live/work with Scum fans)
Lat night our players gave everything, our manager gave everything and City never dominated any significant piece of the game (first 45 mins was probably the best I've seen us play), and when our players needed us, half the fudging stadium was cheering on City's results .. I was there, it wasn't some randoms, it wasn't some inconsequential percentage, it was a lot of fudging people.
If you want to laugh/cheer after the game or outside at a pub, all good, I get it, today it's funny the Scum won't get brick .. at OUR fudging stadium, shameful. And people know it, hence suddenly it's not last night, it was the other bad games .. no, it was last night at the stadium ..
15+ years of fans saying the club/team bottles it, last night our fans bottled it ..
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
Think one of the unfortunate things being lost is how Ange showed he had more than a Plan A last night. Was really impressed with how we lined up and played - wasn’t sure he had it in him. Very inventive set up to be fair to him and City struggled to cope with it first half.
City struggled with it all game, we outplayed them is what is lost.
We got leggy at the end because our bench was light
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Yeah. I'm not getting late stage Conte/Mourinho vibes at all.
Think there's a lot of things building up to that outburst yesterday, some we know, some we don't.
Said it before, but I think Ange is looking forward to preseason and next season after a bit of a summer clear out.
Would not be surprised if 4-6 players regularly in the match day squad will gone over the summer and that they pretty much already know that. Combine that with a squad that was already lacking in quality/suitable options and injuries that's a lot to deal with. Add patchy form, losing out on CL, the weirdness of the game yesterday...
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
I think you’re on the right track. He said months ago that top 4 isn’t the be all and end all. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was ahem…spoken to about how much importance the club and the hierarchy put on CL football.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
He’s already shown how ruthless and curt he can be towards players going out the door, see Eric Dier.
Let's not get in to a who's the better fan debate followed by 4 paragraphs of berating people who were on the other side of the argument to you lol
braineclipse
Willie Hall
To me it was more a case of plan A working well. With some tweaking, as there has been all season. And with some changes forced because of injuries.
City struggled because when our plan works we're a really good team. And because the current version of this system is better suited to this kind of game than a bus parking or tight mid block kind of team. And because we didn't give away a cheap opening goal early.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Absolutely. Sanchez too imo. Got rid even when it left us short.
Feel rather confident that whoever he wants out will be sold, loaned out or at the very worst marginalised within the squad.
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
East Upper darling
Mentality is not saying fans, fans had a moment to support their team, they chose not to, that's what I'm calling out.
Difference for me is I know this is where this goes, it's been a few years I've been considering giving up my seats because of exactly that .. the fans around me in our stadium, not our players/club/results. It will get worse and people will justify it ..
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
Sorry I couldn’t hear you over my caviar and champagne breakfast.
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
Maybe move seats
I have some right odd jobs near me and I’m considering it
I also hate the fudge wits that sold their tickets on but not in a controlled way. There was deffo arsenal fans there in front of me
You don't get to say you're not getting in to a better fan argument and then go on to do exactly that. There's absolutely nothing wrong mentality wise with not wanting to see your arch rivals win the league.
johnola
Mauricio Taricco
We should remember Ange lives in a Spurs bubble, and he should remember we do not.
Yeah he gets the odd tough intrusive question from the press, but we pay for the whole shebang and are the butt of many derisory comments.
Last night one of those sides popped but I hope it is not too damaging.
Yeah he gets the odd tough intrusive question from the press, but we pay for the whole shebang and are the butt of many derisory comments.
Last night one of those sides popped but I hope it is not too damaging.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
The key here is that CL wasn’t in our hands even with a win. If we could have sewn up 4th with a win I think the atmosphere would have been different. Hell, even if a win would have put 4th in our hands, again that’s a different situation. But a win that basically gives us a “chance of 4th”, oh and btw we still need Villa to drop points, i think Billyiddo said it just wasn’t a worthy trade for helping scum win the title. I wasn’t at the game, but at 2-0 I can imagine it was relief as a draw didn’t either team and would have been the worst result. I don’t think our fans reaction was unique, 99% of clubs would have reacted in a similar way in the same situation.
I'm probably done mate, same as when I take a break from here .. You will see the responses even here, everyone will have an excuse of why it's ok, why I shouldn't call people out on it.
I go to games to enjoy myself and support my team, when that no longer becomes an enjoyable experience because of people who can only be bothered to support Spurs when the circumstance is right for them, I can't change them, I can only change my actions ...