Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
They are not giving up, can't believe it made GMB. They are really pathetic
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Victimpool FC - Klopp leaving, grown men crying
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Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Jesus
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
We going to reply the CL final then I'm all in on this cry fest
Kandi1977
Terry Dyson
I really liked this part of an article on 365football
The silliest bit of all, though, is the closing intention to explore ‘the range of options available’. Firstly because those options comprise entirely of a) cry and b) cry more, both of which have now been quite fully explored, but also because the necessary vagueness created by the total lack of actual options means Liverpool leave themselves open to attacks on things they’ve not even asked for.
The silliest bit of all, though, is the closing intention to explore ‘the range of options available’. Firstly because those options comprise entirely of a) cry and b) cry more, both of which have now been quite fully explored, but also because the necessary vagueness created by the total lack of actual options means Liverpool leave themselves open to attacks on things they’ve not even asked for.
indospurs
Young-Pyo Lee
I think liverpool are such a dangerous team, look at the disallowed goal when down to 10 men, salad with two men on him still got a great pass to diaz who had to shoot and score past a defender on him and Vicario
But their outrage is unreal, and the attack on Udogie on his insta is disgusting - and yeah, it's Never their fault SMH... Jota anybody? was on a silly yellow and lunges just a few minutes later, got what he deserved
But their outrage is unreal, and the attack on Udogie on his insta is disgusting - and yeah, it's Never their fault SMH... Jota anybody? was on a silly yellow and lunges just a few minutes later, got what he deserved
Chrissivad
Andy Sinton
would be brilliant if it goes to a 4 game suspension now
Didn't they get rid of that rule?
Kandi1977
Terry Dyson
If they did, they should reintroduce it, just for this time, just to wind them up even more!
Or incorrectly apply it. That would be fun.
Chrissivad
Andy Sinton
Im sure its still about.
They can reject the appeal without adding an extra game (would expect this to happen)
We are Tottenham
Kasey Keller
I just want to say that their disallowed goal was very marginal anyway ....
besides that, games change owing to the circumstances and they could have scored 1 or 2 and won the game!!!!!!!!
It wasn,t the disallowed goal that beat them it was their own goal they let in!!!!!!!
besides that, games change owing to the circumstances and they could have scored 1 or 2 and won the game!!!!!!!!
It wasn,t the disallowed goal that beat them it was their own goal they let in!!!!!!!
Let's ignore all the dodgy decisions that went their way, they don't count.
metalgear
Nayim
It was their lack of discipline too. Have not seen a Liverpool so desperate to regain possession that they'd risk getting so many yellow cards. Udogie's speed panicked them several times before the fouls.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Could the game be replayed?
It is not clear what options Liverpool are referring to in their statement. There is no precedent in the UK for either a match result to be changed or for a game to be replayed due to a refereeing error.
A 1999 FA Cup tie between Arsenal and Sheffield United was replayed only because Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger offered that olive branch after the winning goal was scored in controversial circumstances.
What about the UAE trip?
VAR officials for the Liverpool match - England, Cook and fourth official Michael Oliver - were also part of an officiating team who took charge of a league game in the United Arab Emirates on Thursday, just 48 hours before Saturday's fixture.
The Football Association had approved the trip, with the trio arriving in London on Friday to prepare for Saturday's game.
It is understood that Liverpool also want this looked at as part of PGMOL's review.
These appointments are done on an FA-to-FA request basis and there are currently no further visits to the UAE or Saudi Arabia scheduled, though this may change.
Is this an issue?
Craig Pawson refereed Panathinaikos v PAOK in the Greek Super League on 3 May, while Andy Madley did two matches in Japan's J League and Japan's Kirin Cup match against El Salvador in June.
Both of these visits came after requests from the respective FAs. Oliver also took charge of a Saudi Pro League game in April.
The flight time to the United Arab Emirates from the UK is approximately seven hours, with a time difference of three hours.
BBC Sport's Dan Roan says: "While the FA and PGMOL both approved the request, and match officials [as well as teams] regularly go overseas for midweek European fixtures, it will raise questions as to whether fatigue from the trip to the Middle East may have played a role in their decision-making.
"The PGMOL believes such foreign assignments enhance the international standing of their officiating, and make the point that referees from other countries do the same."
Some people believe that allowing officials to work for leagues in countries with connections to Premier League clubs could lead to claims of a conflict of interest.
Nine English top-flight teams have American owners, with a 10th - Everton - having agreed a takeover deal with an American investment firm, while at least three have Middle East owners and another is in Chinese ownership.
What do the referees say?
Ref Support UK, a charity that provides training and support for referees, said: "This past weekend has probably been one of the toughest for top-flight match officials in England.
"Hopefully this will be a turning point for the game and for VAR. There will always be humans involved in the decision-making process in football, and humans, both players and referees, are fallible and will make mistakes. It's how we learn from these mistakes that will take the game forward.
"Introducing a law change to allow a match official to change a clear error after play has restarted would be a good pace to start."
President of the Referees' Association, Paul Field, said: "Players, coaches, managers and match officials don't deliberately make errors and we will wait for the PGMOL to make a detailed investigation and take whatever operational action they deem appropriate.
"We continue to be concerned about the level of abuse being aimed at match officials and remind people that comments made in the media and by pundits have outcomes at all levels of the game, but notable at grassroots."
It is not clear what options Liverpool are referring to in their statement. There is no precedent in the UK for either a match result to be changed or for a game to be replayed due to a refereeing error.
A 1999 FA Cup tie between Arsenal and Sheffield United was replayed only because Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger offered that olive branch after the winning goal was scored in controversial circumstances.
What about the UAE trip?
VAR officials for the Liverpool match - England, Cook and fourth official Michael Oliver - were also part of an officiating team who took charge of a league game in the United Arab Emirates on Thursday, just 48 hours before Saturday's fixture.
The Football Association had approved the trip, with the trio arriving in London on Friday to prepare for Saturday's game.
It is understood that Liverpool also want this looked at as part of PGMOL's review.
These appointments are done on an FA-to-FA request basis and there are currently no further visits to the UAE or Saudi Arabia scheduled, though this may change.
Is this an issue?
Craig Pawson refereed Panathinaikos v PAOK in the Greek Super League on 3 May, while Andy Madley did two matches in Japan's J League and Japan's Kirin Cup match against El Salvador in June.
Both of these visits came after requests from the respective FAs. Oliver also took charge of a Saudi Pro League game in April.
The flight time to the United Arab Emirates from the UK is approximately seven hours, with a time difference of three hours.
BBC Sport's Dan Roan says: "While the FA and PGMOL both approved the request, and match officials [as well as teams] regularly go overseas for midweek European fixtures, it will raise questions as to whether fatigue from the trip to the Middle East may have played a role in their decision-making.
"The PGMOL believes such foreign assignments enhance the international standing of their officiating, and make the point that referees from other countries do the same."
Some people believe that allowing officials to work for leagues in countries with connections to Premier League clubs could lead to claims of a conflict of interest.
Nine English top-flight teams have American owners, with a 10th - Everton - having agreed a takeover deal with an American investment firm, while at least three have Middle East owners and another is in Chinese ownership.
What do the referees say?
Ref Support UK, a charity that provides training and support for referees, said: "This past weekend has probably been one of the toughest for top-flight match officials in England.
"Hopefully this will be a turning point for the game and for VAR. There will always be humans involved in the decision-making process in football, and humans, both players and referees, are fallible and will make mistakes. It's how we learn from these mistakes that will take the game forward.
"Introducing a law change to allow a match official to change a clear error after play has restarted would be a good pace to start."
President of the Referees' Association, Paul Field, said: "Players, coaches, managers and match officials don't deliberately make errors and we will wait for the PGMOL to make a detailed investigation and take whatever operational action they deem appropriate.
"We continue to be concerned about the level of abuse being aimed at match officials and remind people that comments made in the media and by pundits have outcomes at all levels of the game, but notable at grassroots."
JerusalemMan
Johnny Morrison
It's not that dissimilar from Gusto's a week ago for Chelsea, no appeal from them.
Are they really so silly/underhand as to try and leverage the outrage and injustice of one call to get a reasonable one overturned? (I think we know the answer)
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
I love a good rhetorical question...