Lemonade Money
Steffen Freund
We would've done well to listen to Saudi Sportswashing Machine fans opinion of Sissoko. His move from Palace to Man U and back again mirrors Sigurdsson with us, small club mentality?
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Transfer speculation
- Thread starter Cochise
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Daisuk
Les Medley
Listening to the Fighting rooster this week makes it seem like we might be on the cusp of losing a lot of key players this summer. Rumours of Dier, Rose and Walker all wanting to leave, on top of the Dele rumours and what have you.
Obviously just rumours, and destined to happen after the season(s) we've had, but I fudging hate it none the less. You see Poch getting asked about this brick at the press conferences now as well.
Obviously just rumours, and destined to happen after the season(s) we've had, but I fudging hate it none the less. You see Poch getting asked about this brick at the press conferences now as well.
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Was that this season included? My best mate is a Palace ST holder and so are other friends of mine (the woes of being from South London...) and they all rave about him and think he's stepped up massively this season and is the reason they were not dead and buried by the time Alladyce came in
Was that this season included? My best mate is a Palace ST holder and so are other friends of mine (the woes of being from South London...) and they all rave about him and think he's stepped up massively this season and is the reason they were not dead and buried by the time Alladyce came in
Sigurdsson is a poor example. He wasn't getting enough game time and wanted to leave. Poch didn't want him to go. Sometimes you have to have an experience like he did at Man U to progress, plenty of established players were terrible during the time he was there too you can't make anything conclusive from his time there under Moyes....
Daisuk
Les Medley
Walker being rumoured to Barcelona and Bayern Munchen. No concrete for Rose or Dier that I could hear.
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
If Poch wants him then so be it, all i know is that from what LITTLE i have seen of him i have not been impressed. His time at Utd was short as well and from what was said by a couple of ST holders there he acted big billy gonad*s during his time and was one of the reasons he was let go.
However i think he was only 20 when he first went there so that ( along with his move to a big team) may have had something to do with that.
However i think he was only 20 when he first went there so that ( along with his move to a big team) may have had something to do with that.
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
..And DL surely can say "i gave you an expensive back-up and that didn't turn out well Poch, so...."
StephenH
David Ginola
Very difficult to make an informed opinion from where we all sit!
I would like you, not touch him with a barge pole, but in Pochettino we etc......
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
I can agree with that; However, imo, Poch has to be careful that he doesn't get labelled in a similar way that many (including us) labelled Rafa who also had a high-churn of players most seasons.
It's certainly admirable that Poch wants to only keep players he can realistically see using and not let them stay and rot taking up squad places for youngsters etc, but there will come a point that further scrutiny of his transfer target choices will happen if many players like N'Jie keep being signed before being sold a year later (particularly after stories come out saying 'Poch personally called X player' or 'Poch met Y player at player/Poch's house' etc)
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
Saying that mate is going to upset quite a few armchair supporters and even some who sit at the ground
, but in all honesty you are probably right.
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
This is so true with almost all players we want to sign. Its chalk and cheese compared to our own players, who we micro analyse to the nth degree.
If i compare the amount of time i spend watching other teams compared to us, the ratio is probably 50:1
And of course we're often fed soundbites/narrative/highlight reels that create bandwagons and artificial hype
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Haven't done overwhelmingly great in transfers.
Moussa Sissoko
Pau López
Georges-Kevin N'koudou
Vincent Janssen
Victor Wanyama
Heung-Min Son
Clinton N'Jie
Toby Alderweireld
Kieran Trippier
Kevin Wimmer
Dele Alli
Benjamin Stambouli
Federico Fazio
DeAndre Yedlin
Eric Dier
Ben Davies
Michael Vorm
Quite a mixed bag (bearing in mind Dier and Alli were likely the work of Pleat and co, as they were before Paul Mitchell and his team started)
I'd rather get a new DoF and scouting team in before we spunk £40m on an average highlights reel showpony.
Robbo
Les Ferdinand
It's gonna be a long and tedious summer, isn't it. I used to enjoy my daily summer rumours, but I'm increasingly bored and annoyed with them. And I'm sure we won't see the end of Spurs player X and Y being linked to other clubs because they are richer and thus per definition is more successful, despite Spurs being the better side over the course of two seasons.
Building a good side matters less and less. It's all about buying success, session after season - I'm sure even if we do keep our squad together (which I think we will), the fact that we're young and talented and will very likely develop into an even better team next season, will be mostly overlooked. It will be the regular tossfest with pundits talking about how Pep spent so and so much, how Mourinho bought those extremely expensive players, how Klopp unearthed the next Messi and how Chelski spent another £50-60m on two squad players that will rarely play before they end up in China for record money in a year or two. And of course they'll save a bit of fapping for whoever ends up as this summer's marquee signing for Arse, in a position where they don't really need reinforcement.
Ok, I'll happily admit I'm fine with that, because it allows us to move forward outside the media circus. But it annoys me so much that real achievement and long term building is overshadowed by money, names and short term thinking. Football is such a show these days, and to be fair has been for years, but I really hate it.
I don't know, I'm probably just turning into a grumpy old nostalgic, but the constant stream of mass produced, repetitive "articles" with no sources just annoys me. I realise there's money to be made making them, because fools like me still keep clicking the links. So this summer, I think I might make that extra little effort not too. Even if it doesn't matter brick.
Oh well. Rant over. That escalated, eh?
Building a good side matters less and less. It's all about buying success, session after season - I'm sure even if we do keep our squad together (which I think we will), the fact that we're young and talented and will very likely develop into an even better team next season, will be mostly overlooked. It will be the regular tossfest with pundits talking about how Pep spent so and so much, how Mourinho bought those extremely expensive players, how Klopp unearthed the next Messi and how Chelski spent another £50-60m on two squad players that will rarely play before they end up in China for record money in a year or two. And of course they'll save a bit of fapping for whoever ends up as this summer's marquee signing for Arse, in a position where they don't really need reinforcement.
Ok, I'll happily admit I'm fine with that, because it allows us to move forward outside the media circus. But it annoys me so much that real achievement and long term building is overshadowed by money, names and short term thinking. Football is such a show these days, and to be fair has been for years, but I really hate it.
I don't know, I'm probably just turning into a grumpy old nostalgic, but the constant stream of mass produced, repetitive "articles" with no sources just annoys me. I realise there's money to be made making them, because fools like me still keep clicking the links. So this summer, I think I might make that extra little effort not too. Even if it doesn't matter brick.
Oh well. Rant over. That escalated, eh?
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Paul Walsh
We were talking Christmas time and he thought they would sell to us.
StephenH
David Ginola
Under Pochettino we are, with fair wind, going to finish higher than last season and are moving in the right direction or I was hallucinating on Saturday afternoon when played a great game of the highest level, yes we lost but we were very good and IMHO the better team and at fraction of the cost of the Chelsea team!
I don't see a DOF helping this!
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
the ITK crap gets me wound up people pretending they have heard something, I try to eat healthy these days and on the whole succed but every Friday I go for a fry up and the fella in the keeps the whole "I heard man u are buying Bale or I heard whisper Liverpool are buying Messi" and what he actually means is what he read in the sun this morning or heard on talkbrick
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
I see there is the normal worries about the flimflam papers are printing about some of our players, below is a table of how realiable these rumours are. Take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them are nothing more then click bate.
Rumour Accuracy
Source Correct Total Num Accuracy
The Guardian 364 994
36.6%
Daily Record 212 633
33.5%
Daily Telegraph 405 1352
30.0%
The Times 444 1550
28.6%
The Herald 23 83
27.7%
The Independent 233 845
27.6%
The Scotsman 9 33
27.3%
Daily Mail 1423 6146
23.2%
Daily Mirror 2164 10068
21.5%
The Sun 1146 5519
20.8%
Rumour Accuracy
Source Correct Total Num Accuracy
The Guardian 364 994
36.6%
Daily Record 212 633
33.5%
Daily Telegraph 405 1352
30.0%
The Times 444 1550
28.6%
The Herald 23 83
27.7%
The Independent 233 845
27.6%
The Scotsman 9 33
27.3%
Daily Mail 1423 6146
23.2%
Daily Mirror 2164 10068
21.5%
The Sun 1146 5519
20.8%
milo
Jack L. Jones
There are a few players there that were signed under Baldini. Mitchell wasn't a DoF but it is possible that last summers signings were assessed by him and his team.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Yeah - just watch the cricket and the Lions tour and plug back into football in mid-August. It's much better for you.
Poch is the best coach I've ever seen operate. But I think he might be a bit suspect on transfers. In fact I don't think he's that bothered by them (preferring youth progressions), which is why he maybe needs a specialist he trusts to work alongside him.