Tim Sherwood…gone \o/

[Modric THFC]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

We lost this tie last week when Sherwood balls up his tactics and did not have the foresight to change to a 5 man midfield when Benfica were clearly killing us in the middle of the park.

I don't agree with the Sherwood bashing but I also think that he is not what we need at Spurs. He does not have the experience or ability to change our biggest problem, a **** mentality!

Regarding results, we have lost 4 of the last 5 in the prem and performances have been as bad as those we witnessed under avb especially at home. If we hadn't already sacked a manager I doubt Tim would have survived with the way we have performed this month.

The last 20 minutes tonight revealed the fame was retrievable and Benfica weren't as solid as everyone belief. We went behind last week but lost it by not bothering tonight until it was too late.

 

[Spurs7891]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

If AVB's treatment of Adebayor was unfair, Sherwood's treatment of Eriksen is simply disgusting. Why waste the talent of our most creative player in all important matches ?

 

[lurker of old]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Just back from a very warm place called Portugal. Christ we were awful in the first half. Siggurdson, Townsend, both atrocious, in fact the entire midfield was terrible. But then on comes Eriksen and BOF! We start playing some lovely football. We become Tottenham, and only a bottling ref denies us a 3rd goal.

Funny old game, at least we turned up in the second half!

 

[chancer]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Paulinho has been injured in training and is focussing on being fit for the league game against Southampton on Sunday. Adebayor was always a doubt for the second leg in Lisbon having suffered a gashed knee and a further ankle injury against Arsenal

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...risis-ahead-of-europa-league-tie-9200566.html

Tottenham have their own worries ahead of their trip to west London as the club wait to learn if Eriksen has recovered from a back injury. The 22-year-old missed his club's 1-0 victory over Cardiff City last Sunday and manager Tim Sherwood suggested the midfielder would drop out of the Denmark squad as a precaution.

https://www.google.ie/search?q=Erik...eriksen+injury&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official


Some are saying these stories are lies coming from Sherwood.

Which would mean that Sherwood, knowing that the EL is his last hope of success this season, left his best players at home or on the bench despite their being fit and raring to go. And then, he lied about those 4 or 5 inividuals - all top class internationals - whilst knowing any of them could tell the truth at any moment and severely damage him.

These conspiracy theories about Sherwood are starting to take on a creepy cultishness. Earlier today that nonsense about Sherwood not realising he had 2 players playing the same position, and now this thing about telling easily falsifiable and counter-productive lies. Real Kool-Aid stuff.

 

[Hootnow]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

The conspiracy theories about Sherwood have become absolutely incredible. I didn't realise people who were intelligent enough to be literate, buy and turn on a computer could come up with this kind of stuff.

 

[shaney]

Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

We just have to tolerate Sherwood till the end of the season. Any tiny chance that he had of getting the job full time, he has well and truely ballsed it up for himself with his crap attitude, crap ego, crap personal skills, and crap anger managment issues. My postman has more chance of being boss next season.

 

[Mulletperm]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

The conspiracy theories about Sherwood have become absolutely incredible. I didn't realise people who were intelligent enough to be literate, buy and turn on a computer could come up with this kind of stuff.

It's the internet, anything is possible. Some of the crap being spouted on here recently has been frankly embarrassing.

 

[Robspur12]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

It's the internet, anything is possible. Some of the crap being spouted on here recently has been frankly embarrassing.

Yep particularly from those who still think the Portuguese master was the second coming.

 

[camspur]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...risis-ahead-of-europa-league-tie-9200566.html


https://www.google.ie/search?q=Erik...eriksen+injury&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official


Some are saying these stories are lies coming from Sherwood.

Which would mean that Sherwood, knowing that the EL is his last hope of success this season, left his best players at home or on the bench despite their being fit and raring to go. And then, he lied about those 4 or 5 inividuals - all top class internationals - whilst knowing any of them could tell the truth at any moment and severely damage him.

These conspiracy theories about Sherwood are starting to take on a creepy cu ntishness. Earlier today that nonsense about Sherwood not realising he had 2 players playing the same position, and now this thing about telling easily falsifiable and counter-productive lies. Real Kool-Aid stuff.

Corrected it for you.

What do they want TS to do play all his best players fit or not so that come full time they're all out for the rest of the season. Sometimes players really are injured.

 

[camspur]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Bale was an important cog in the wheel granted. However, we were adjusting without Bale, whilst being more competitive than we are now: even after the City and Liverpool drubbings we were 5 points off 4th, 8 points off the top.
Where are we now in that regard? Yes, we have beaten Utd, Everton an Southampton (probably like AVB would have) but if those teams win their games in hand we could be battling for 7th/8th

He wasn't an important cog he was the only thing that kept the wheels from falling off. Now we're seeing just how important he was.

 

[indianspur]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Interesting.

I'd just assumed he'd been given a retrospective touchline ban for his 'Pardew'.

I think he even managed to look a bit shambolic up in the stands. I liked the suit, but the way he was walking around thumbs-upping people, it looked like he'd had a few jars. Mind you, Baldini was on the ciggies next to Levy wasn't he.

was Baldini there?? i didnt see him

 

[BrainOfLevy]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

I don't think I am being unfair. For all you might say about how we have played under TS (not that well imo), be honest, how often did you go into those 'big' games and feel reasonably confident that we could actually win?
Whatever people say about AVB, he mostly made us go toe-to-toe with the big guns (before the 6-0 debacle..) where we were hardly out of it until the final whistle.

With TS we've been mostly swatted aside with ease. Even vs Arsenal I was not truly confident we'd score: simply lumping the ball in the box for Mertersacker to easily clear said it all to me. No under TS we have not really punched above our weight. If we lose on Sunday this will become much clearer for all to see.[/QUOTE

You are ignoring an important part of my post. AVB could only go toe to toe when he had Bale. It was not clear he could this season in fact quite the opposite. When you get beaten 6-0, and 0-5 your confidence in him doing well against the big teams kind of goes. Sherwood has not beaten any of the top 3 granted, but he has beaten Utd, Everton and Southampton the team around us. AVB failed to beat either Utd or Everton

Bale wasn't 'uber Bale' when we beat the Champions at Old Trafford, he was just very good Bale at this point.

Even this season, we went toe to toe with Chelsea this season and I don't think we disgraced ourselves against Arsenal without Bale. The City and Liverpool games were a blow but by that point things were unravelling behind the scenes anyway.

To be honest though, if we built a team that Sherwood wanted rather than one he inherited, I think he'd do good against the big teams too. The performance against potential champions Arsenal was good.

 

[spurs' magna carter]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Should Sherwood get the job for any longer then I will cycle to the nearby cliffs and jump off them.

If Sherwood fans want to use that in future in case he's a huge success then fine but I literally dread the thought of him being here any longer, that despite last night. When he was given the job I felt a sense of optimism being impressed with his work at youth level with the hope that he maybe, just maybe, our Guardiola but since then all I've seen is man try talk his way into the job, going on a charm offensive with that embarrassing wink. Also some of his results have be based on luck or individual brilliance, something very similar to the criticisms received by his predecessor.

I guess that with the EL out the way and some more winnable fixtures coming up we'll go on a winning streak from now on til the end but I feel that should not over shadow some of the truly shocking things we've seen from him when reviewing his position in the summer.

For me he's just another Stuart Pearce. He has worked well enough in the academy to warrant a shot at the big time, showing that he is more forward thinking than his compatriots but he lacks the character for the job.

 

[stinkfoot]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

If i hear any more about this moral victory bull**** tonight.
Sherwood's attitude to the game tonight was terrible.

If the match was a Champion's League Final do you think Adebayor, Lloris, Walker, Paulinho all wouldnt be available. They'd be patched up given an injection and told this is our most important game of the season.

Sherwood figured we were already out of the tie with no chance of getting back into it. He has no faith in his players. He had no fight in him and no belief. I though that was supposed to be Sherwood strengths.

We should have had a full team out tonight trying for 90 minutes, not a bit team coasting for 70 minutes until Benfica were caught napping, and 20 minutes of "heroic comeback".

=D>

 

[Lost Mango]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Bale wasn't 'uber Bale' when we beat the Champions at Old Trafford, he was just very good Bale at this point.

Even this season, we went toe to toe with Chelsea this season and I don't think we disgraced ourselves against Arsenal without Bale. The City and Liverpool games were a blow but by that point things were unravelling behind the scenes anyway.

To be honest though, if we built a team that Sherwood wanted rather than one he inherited, I think he'd do good against the big teams too. The performance against potential champions Arsenal was good.

But wasn't that the case for AVB too? he wasn't given the players he wanted - he got the players that Baldini/"the Committee" wanted, hence the less than magnificent seven and the results this season. And Deadwood was as much a part of the Committee as AVB so those 7 are as much his players as the previous manager.

 

[camspur]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

If i hear any more about this moral victory bull**** tonight.
Sherwood's attitude to the game tonight was terrible.

If the match was a Champion's League Final do you think Adebayor, Lloris, Walker, Paulinho all wouldnt be available. They'd be patched up given an injection and told this is our most important game of the season.

Sherwood figured we were already out of the tie with no chance of getting back into it. He has no faith in his players. He had no fight in him and no belief. I though that was supposed to be Sherwood strengths.

We should have had a full team out tonight trying for 90 minutes, not a bit team coasting for 70 minutes until Benfica were caught napping, and 20 minutes of "heroic comeback".

If it were the CL Final it would be the most important game of the season they'd also have no other games left to worry about and the whole summer to recover. As it was it wasn't the most important game and we still have 8 games left to push for 4th or hold on to 5th depending on whether you're an optimist or pessimist.

There was no moral victory last night but I think its not only Sherwood's attitude that needs questioning when a team without our so-called stars can get to within 1 minute of beating a team that has lost only two games in 2 years at home when Lloris, Vertonghen and Kaboul were all culpable to crap defending last week.

 

[Seedy Ron]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...risis-ahead-of-europa-league-tie-9200566.html


https://www.google.ie/search?q=Erik...eriksen+injury&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official


Some are saying these stories are lies coming from Sherwood.

Which would mean that Sherwood, knowing that the EL is his last hope of success this season, left his best players at home or on the bench despite their being fit and raring to go. And then, he lied about those 4 or 5 inividuals - all top class internationals - whilst knowing any of them could tell the truth at any moment and severely damage him.

These conspiracy theories about Sherwood are starting to take on a creepy cultishness. Earlier today that nonsense about Sherwood not realising he had 2 players playing the same position, and now this thing about telling easily falsifiable and counter-productive lies. Real Kool-Aid stuff.

I'll give you the Norwich game, it's silly to suggest two professional footballers would be stood next to each other going "Err, aren't you supposed to be over there...?", although it's not unusual for 2 players to be running into each others space on occasion. I'll even give you Ade, although I bet he plays on Sunday. But the Eriksen stories there are from 2 weeks ago, he looked fine last week and looked fine when he came on last night. If Sherwood really wanted to win the game, he'd have played our most creative player for more than 15 minutes. He wouldn't have taken off Soldado for Kane, he would've gone with both and sacrificed some defence. His claims of a plan coming together are completely disingenuous.

 

[glorygloryeze]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Sherwood conspiracy theories eh?

Are they worse than the AVB "played Lamela at City to spite Levy/Baldini" or "purposely trained the team to be negative" ones? :lol:

 

[camspur]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Sherwood conspiracy theories eh?

Are they worse than the AVB "played Lamela at City to spite Levy/Baldini" or "purposely trained the team to be negative" ones? :lol:

Yes because we're in "**** off Sherwood" season.

 

[glorygloryeze]

Re: Tim Sherwood - Head Coach

Yes because we're in "**** off Sherwood" season.

Just admit that the 'conspracy theories' are as 'bad' as each other