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The Europa League - Sh1t got real...

Re: The Europa League - brick could be about to get real...

. . . or the old (old) Uefa Cup format ;)

but yeah agreed - straight two legged knock out, no seeding
 
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couple of weeks i guess now.

so you better watch yourself :p
 
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Would we have qualified for the CL both this season and last season if these rules had already been in place?
 
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Would we have qualified for the CL both this season and last season if these rules had already been in place?

Looks a bit ambiguous from the BBC website. But it suggests yes, we would.

Anyone know how safe our current 4-team coefficient is, given how badly English clubs have done collectively over the last four years? And does Europa performance affect the CL coefficient ?
 
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Looks a bit ambiguous from the BBC website. But it suggests yes, we would.

Anyone know how safe our current 4-team coefficient is, given how badly English clubs have done collectively over the last four years? And does Europa performance affect the CL coefficient ?
If that is the case, you really couldn't make it up. The football gods mocking us yet again. You can be sure neither of those two things will happen to us after the new rules are in place.
 
Re: The Europa League - brick could be about to get real...

Looks a bit ambiguous from the BBC website. But it suggests yes, we would.

Anyone know how safe our current 4-team coefficient is, given how badly English clubs have done collectively over the last four years? And does Europa performance affect the CL coefficient ?

England are going to lose 1st place to Spain but under the current rules it doesn't really make any difference - the top 3 countries all have the same entrants at the same stage to EL and CL. England are not in danger of slipping out of the top 3 anytime soon.

Both EL and CL results contribute to the coefficients.
 
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UEFA have confirmed they will reward the winners of the Europa League from 2014/15 with a place in the Champions League.

The new ruling, ratified by the UEFA Congress in London on Friday, means the winners of Europe's second-tier competition in two seasons' time will compete in the 2015/16 Champions League tournament.
 
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Wouldn't you just know it. They open the door only AFTER we have been cheated out of qualification, like they needed to wait for us to be the victim of a brick system before sorting it out.

No point in getting our hopes up though. The top three places are locked in imo and with Arse loaded reviving and Liverpool getting their act together, what's the betting we still wind up losing out by some statistical freak or other on the last day of the season.

We are Spurs, that's what happens to us. :frown:

Needed to get that off me chest.
 
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Wouldn't you just know it. They open the door only AFTER we have been cheated out of qualification, like they needed to wait for us to be the victim of a brick system before sorting it out.

No point in getting our hopes up though. The top three places are locked in imo and with Arse loaded reviving and Liverpool getting their act together, what's the betting we still wind up losing out by some statistical freak or other on the last day of the season.

We are Spurs, that's what happens to us. :frown:

Needed to get that off me chest.

But this wouldn't have changed anything for any of the seasons we've missed out by a small margin? We haven't come close to winning the UEFA cup/Europa league.
 
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So what happens if you come in the top four and win the cup?

In England, the team that achieves that will play in the CL the following season but I'd expect that England wouldn't get an additional CL place. The CL place reserved for the EL winner would be filled by moving teams up from the earlier qualifying rounds.

It also seems that in future 16 teams rather than the current 6 will qualify directly for the group stages of the EL.
 
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UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino announced the rule change which aims to make the second-tier European tournament more attractive to clubs.

Infantino did not confirm the full details, but it is understood that Europa League winners and Champions League winners will no longer take a place from the domestic leagues if they finish outside of the Champions League qualifying spots.
 
Re: The Europa League - brick got real...

UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino announced the rule change which aims to make the second-tier European tournament more attractive to clubs.

Infantino did not confirm the full details, but it is understood that Europa League winners and Champions League winners will no longer take a place from the domestic leagues if they finish outside of the Champions League qualifying spots.

If that's true, then, presumably, the same country might end up with 6 qualifiers. Would be quite a u-turn.
 
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I'm not sure what you can do for this competition. Its second tier, seen as second tier and will always remain second tier.

Just scrap it, re-instate the Cup Winners Cup in a straight knock out formula which would not be second tier as the winners would be able to claim to be THE best European CUP/Knockout team. Then give an extra CL place to qualifying countries.

Slight problem of the cup winners also being a champions league side if you look at the last 10-15yrs in UK though :|
 
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From 2015/16, UEFA Europa League winners will be rewarded with a place in the UEFA Champions League play-offs the following season and could go straight into the group stage.

The UEFA Executive Committee approved changes to the access list of the UEFA club competitions for the 2015-18 cycle at its meeting in London this week.

The UEFA Europa League winners will be granted access to the play-offs of the subsequent UEFA Champions League season. The UEFA Europa League winners could even gain direct access to the group stage should the UEFA Champions League title holders also qualify via their domestic league, thus freeing up a place in the UEFA Champions League group stage.

As an effect of the UEFA Europa League winners qualifying for the UEFA Champions League, the current limit of a maximum four teams per association will be increased to five.

"As was proven with this year's magnificent final, the UEFA Europa League has gone from strength to strength, but we wanted to give clubs a further incentive, so that all of them play with a desire to win the competition," UEFA President Michel Platini said. "By guaranteeing access to the UEFA Champions League for the winners, we are convinced that the UEFA Europa League will increase its appeal for clubs and their supporters."

Further changes were made to the access list, whereby, in principle, all associations will now have a maximum three teams entering the UEFA Europa League. In addition, the number of teams directly qualifying for the group stage will be increased to 16 teams from the top 12 associations (compared to the current six teams from the top six associations).

The UEFA Executive Committee also approved the full centralisation of commercial rights as from the group stage onwards (compared to the current full centralisation from the knockout stage onwards).


http://www.uefa.com/uefa/aboutuefa/organisation/executivecommittee/news/newsid=1956131.html?rss=1956131+Added+bonus+for+UEFA+Europa+League+winners
 
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