LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
What is her culture?
I don't know and don't care. Think she is a random wrong un.
What is her culture?
i agree that all ramdom wrong 'uns should condemn her actions! Imagine driving to the wrong hotel! What an amateur - giving wrong 'uns a bad name!I don't know and don't care. Think she is a random wrong un.
We don't allow chavs on here, you won't find any.
Can the people from her culture come and condemn her so we can decide you are not extremists please.
We don't allow chavs on here, you won't find any.
What an absolute fudgetard inbred, trying to kill people because she saw or read something. No place for this the worldI think what she was intending was terrorism.
They should be 100%, I’m sure they will put it down to some fluff like mentally unstable or interpretationThe videos she watched, are they being investigated?
Don’t knock Diane she is class
That may be. She's still not allowed in.I think what she was intending was terrorism.
She's handy to have around when you don't want Labour voted in.Don’t knock Diane she is class
She’s about as intelligent as my fungal nailShe's handy to have around when you don't want Labour voted in.
You're more of a fan than I am then.She’s about as intelligent as my fungal nail
I think you are being disingenuous here. it feels like you have invented this artificial line between religion and race to amplify your dislike of Islam and Muslims. In reality the boundaries are far more blurred than you are making out. The attacks against muslims are rarely about religious ideology alone, because Islamic ideology, (what I know of it) is not homogeneous but wrapped up with cultural beliefs and appearances too.There's a section of this forum (and the country in general) that wants to conflate a dislike of a religion with a dislike of a race. That way, then can jump up and down shouting "Racist" every time that religion is criticised.
A lot will depend on the assessed mental state and thought process in the lead up to her actions.I think what she was intending was terrorism.
@Gazza genuinely sorry to hear about the experiences that have shaped your negativity towards Islam. But your posts are propagating so many anti muslim tropes. Firstly, by lumping over a billion people together as one homogeneous, homophobic, women oppressing group who follow only Sharia law. And by claiming they will threaten your life if you criticise their religion - which is clearly not the case with @LutonSpurs . There will no doubt be people practicing Islam who fit that profile. But as you know, any large human group dynamic has within it people who hold a wide spectrum of views, some of them extreme. Whether those groups are based around religion, politics sport or just an online community even. As I've said before you are clearly an intelligent and articulate poster so I've found your posts in this thread surprising.
@Gazza genuinely sorry to hear about the experiences that have shaped your negativity towards Islam. But your posts are propagating so many anti muslim tropes. Firstly, by lumping over a billion people together as one homogeneous, homophobic, women oppressing group who follow only Sharia law. And by claiming they will threaten your life if you criticise their religion - which is clearly not the case with @LutonSpurs . There will no doubt be people practicing Islam who fit that profile. But as you know, any large human group dynamic has within it people who hold a wide spectrum of views, some of them extreme. Whether those groups are based around religion, politics sport or just an online community even. As I've said before you are clearly an intelligent and articulate poster so I've found your posts in this thread surprising.
I appreciate your measured thoughts. Some I agree with and some points not so much.@Gazza genuinely sorry to hear about the experiences that have shaped your negativity towards Islam. But your posts are propagating so many anti muslim tropes. Firstly, by lumping over a billion people together as one homogeneous, homophobic, women oppressing group who follow only Sharia law. And by claiming they will threaten your life if you criticise their religion - which is clearly not the case with @LutonSpurs . There will no doubt be people practicing Islam who fit that profile. But as you know, any large human group dynamic has within it people who hold a wide spectrum of views, some of them extreme. Whether those groups are based around religion, politics sport or just an online community even. As I've said before you are clearly an intelligent and articulate poster so I've found your posts in this thread surprising.
I don't really give much of a fudge about what other people think and do, I've made that abundantly clear in my years here.I think you are being disingenuous here. it feels like you have invented this artificial line between religion and race to amplify your dislike of Islam and Muslims. In reality the boundaries are far more blurred than you are making out. The attacks against muslims are rarely about religious ideology alone, because Islamic ideology, (what I know of it) is not homogeneous but wrapped up with cultural beliefs and appearances too.
The All Party Parliamentary Group published a report in 2018 describing islamophobia in the following terms:-
In the West, Islam has been racialised. This means that “Muslimness” is given a racial character, and ascribed with the quality of non-Whiteness. And so whilst “markers of Muslimness” vary based on gender, such as certain attire (hijab, taqiyah) or facial hair (beards), they broadly include a South Asian, West Asian or North African phenotype (facial features and skin colour), as well as South Asian, West Asian or North African cultural markers such as food and music. This means that anyone who looks (or acts) “Brown” or “Middle Eastern” is a potential target of Islamophobia, since everyone who looks “Brown” or “Middle Eastern” is conflated with “Muslimness”. Islamophobia is therefore based on stereotyping entire regions with many different peoples and cultures into one homogenous group. There are documented instances of South Asians (many of whom are Sikh, but also Hindus and Christians), Black men with beards, but also Central and Eastern European migrant men, being targeted by Islamophobic abuse.
Understanding how Islamophobia also targets non-Muslims allows us to further understand how Islamophobia functions as racism. Islamophobia turns Muslims, but also those perceived to be Muslim, into “racialised Others”.
I think this articulates really well how the lines between islamophobia and racism are blurred. Ironically not so dissimilar to your point about the cultural heritage of Jews and the antisemitism you rightly abhor.
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