Mikey10
Pat van den Hauwe
Surely qualifies under hate speech? Let’s hope there are some prosecutions.
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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)
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Surely qualifies under hate speech? Let’s hope there are some prosecutions.
Legohamster
Cecil Poynton
should be easy to find as the idiots are all using real profiles by the looks of it
JerusalemMan
Johnny Morrison
There are nasty spiteful people in the world. Well, I am shocked!
Glenda's Legs
Les Ferdinand
I wonder if these people ever stop to imagine what it would be like if something happened to one of their children, or grandchildren, regardless of whether or not they were doing something of which others disapproved, and were met with such a lack of compassion.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Volunteers in France are blaming the UK for making it tough to enter for asylum after today's death saying we should provide safe passage so all claims can be heard
Any reason why they can't apply from France?
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
The asylum seekers probably prefer face to face on our shores just in case the goverment, lose something, forget something, change something, delay something or pretend they never existed
Baleforce
Ron Henry
we don't allow that do we?
I thought they had to be here to claim asylum.
In that case its disgustingly barbaric of us not to have an online/postal/carrier pigeon remote system in place.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Not sure, this lady was saying by not providing safe passage we create the black market that exists which I get but don't get. If we did that surely those that fail to gain entry or those that feel they wont will still use the black market? Not in as many numbers but the can just gets kicked about
Baleforce
Ron Henry
If we make it safer for some of them, surely thats a good thing.
If we face up to our global responsibilities and take a lead on this maybe we can drag some other countries along with us.
I don't know, it was a genuine question.
If not, wouldn't it make a lot of sense to stick an office in Calais like they do the border patrol and take applications there?
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Thats a really good idea too.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
How can you make it safer? Run a purpose charter?
I like @scaramanga idea of setting up an office there but that won't solve risk taking as people will want to circumnavigate the red tape especially if they think they are likely to be refused.
I think as an island we do ok to realize our responsibility TBH could do more but can't be accused of doing nothing just because we have a system in place
Even if there was an office and we heard every relevant case you couldn't accept everyone even if it meet criteria
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Not a bad idea, at least have boats out there helping them to not die.
What about our responsibility as a former colonial power who have been a big part of destabilising previously democratic states and profiteering from the induced civil wars?
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
I'm not saying we haven't got questions to answer but is the answer to say come one come all or do you have to have systems and process?
What would your answer be?
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Not having “a hostile environment”, not treating other humans as an enemy, not allowing the racist propaganda of Farage to go unchallenged, let alone lead govt responses and talking points.
An honest conversation using real numbers, reiteration of the social and economic benefits of immigration.
Respect and education.
Holding the press to some standards of honesty wouldn’t hurt either.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Would you say the UK is a hostile environment?
I agree with your points about Farage
I don't think it's hostile to have processes, I think it also relates to your point about social and economic benefit to have process.
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Baleforce
Ron Henry
Yes, although not just to immigrants, there is plenty of contempt to go around.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
I couldn't disagree more TBH especially living in a hugely diverse part of London.
"Hostile environment" is a phrase that the tories used as something to aspire to... as in create a hostile environment. I agree with you that London is wonderfully diverse one of the main reasons for me that it sh its on Paris which is quite segregated.